my system
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Printed Date: June 11, 2024 at 11:17 PM
Topic: my system
Posted By: still_walkin
Subject: my system
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 4:15 AM
i have a system that consist of and i want you all to rate it and tell me what you think of it. i did all the wiring and the designing and so forth. 1-Audiobahn 4x6 set as46q
1 -Audiobahn 6x9 set as69q
Jvc deck 20x4 jvckd-adv6270
1- Alpine tweeter set
2-Audiobahn tweeter set
1-Alpine 5x7/tweeter set
4-Audiobahn subs aw1251se
1-Audiobahn a2200hct
2-Audiobahn a2002t 2-legacy 3 farad capacitors 4-pyramid 7" headrest tvs 2-7" sunvisors all wired in stinger speaker and power wire big three setup ------------- 1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Replies:
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 6:34 AM
You SERIOUSLY don't want people here to rate that system... It's gonna get around -4, on average. Audioburn is generally regarded as garbage gear, all around, and you have too many tweeters. 8 tweeters?!?! In addition to what's in the coaxials?
That's gonna sound horrendous, at best. So, I personally rate it a zero. I don't think I could even SIT in that car, let alone listen to it.
Wax the caps, wax ALL the Audiobohm stuff, and put some real equipment in. The only thing I might even CONSIDER keeping would be the JVC head (and there is better for the same money). If you haven't laid out your hard earned bennies for that stuff yet, DONT!!! Thank goodness you asked first. If you have, I'm VERY sorry for your loss.
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It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 7:15 AM
I have to agree. I dont like audiobahn at all. A friend of mine has 2 12" audiobahn's and they sounded horrible. Had no difference in bass frequencies and all mooshed together. But then again he was running it off a pyramid amp. Im not a fan of audiobahn at all. But I also look at it this way... If you like the way your system sounds, then that is all that matters. Your the one that site in the car and listens to it. Not haemphyst, myself or anyone else. Its just all out of opinion. I like the way my system sounds but I know others will disagree.
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 7:33 AM
Ok thanks for the replies so far but haemphyst what are you working with?
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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: tdsteele
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 7:36 AM
Yup, it's all personal preference. I've seen systems with all junk equipment that actually sounded good and high dollar systems that sounded like crap to me. Everyone has their own taste. If you like it then that's all that matters. I'm not going to bash anything unless I see it and hear it. Brand names, amount of speakers, etc don't mean squat to me so. I'll throw in a personal example. My very first "system" included cheap Radio Shack speakers for mids and highs ran off Walmart special eq/boosters (2 of them), a craig amp from some auto parts store pushing a pair of old RF Series 1 subs, and the only nice thing was the old Alpine cassette deck, impressive huh. The guys at the car audio shop that installed the deck for me had to ask how the heck I wired everything up so they could install the deck right, laughing the whole time of course, but when they got done and turned it on, they were actually impressed. So, in my mind, with some creativity, low grade stuff can be used and sound good to certain people. You'll have a hard time getting people on this site to praise your system, so don't take it too hard. I love this site cause you can get alot of very useful information and will learn alot if you pay attention and take it all in. But you will find alot of the recommendations on equipment are the high dollar stuff that alot of people cannot just run out and buy. And a majority of the time that saying of you get what you pay for does apply to car audio, like alot of things, but not always. It's all in what you want out of it and what sounds/looks good to you. So, after all my rambling, if you are happy with the system then congrats on it, I hope it serves you well.
Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 7:37 AM
Here is what I am working with: Panasonic HR1003U headunit 1 farad American pro cap pair Earthquake 12" DBX single coil subs pair Earthquake F6X9 (on my rear seats) pair Earthquake F4X6 4 Power Acoustik NB-1 tweeters Soundstorm F4100 amp Kole Audio XP2-2000 Nitric amp Earthquake TNT 600 amp
Posted By: stevdart
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 8:17 AM
If I were trolling for flames, just to be intentionally funny, I couldn't have done it better than this! Jahmal, why ask for opinions AFTER it's all installed? ------------- Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 8:54 AM
Its sounds great the tweeters a mids are at the right level and 1 thing I learned about audiobahn subs and that if you put them in a box with little cubic space but if you put them in a rather larger box the results are great I had my whole trunk sound deadend everyone is entitled to their opnion. I have to agree with tdsteele I've seen some radio shack equip sound good . For example radio shack came out with a brand of subs called pro series and they give deep bass for a radio shack sub .
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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 8:55 AM
yea there arent many people on here that will say that someone elses system is great. Mostly everyone thinks their system is the best and that is ok. I just dont like those who diss someone elses system. It only matters to that person and nobody else. But also dont take negative comments to heart.
Posted By: audioman2007
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 9:02 AM
But is is very true that you can take a very great sub and make it sound like crap. And you can take a crappy sub and make it sound great. It all depends on how the enclosure is built and what you have powering it.
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 9:29 AM
That's true I guess well I know what people think of my system and I haved like and dislikes but the way I c it if the overall sound is balanced and there isn't too much highs or lows etc thing a job well done right?
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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 9:31 AM
If you're happy with your system, that's all that matters. -------------  the12volt • Support the12volt.com
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 10:26 AM
still_walkin wrote:
Ok thanks for the replies so far but haemphyst what are you working with?
You're KIDDING, right? Do you REALLY want to go there? I have more invested in my signal processors than you probably have in your entire system. :P
Here's what I'm working with.
I do apologize. My response was a bit hard. I was up all night with a migraine, and I was not really thinking straight. I sometimes forget that what sounds great to one person might not necessarily sound great to the next. From a true SQ standpoint, and from a technical standpoint, the fewer drivers you have, the better it will sound, without question. The comb-filtering from that many drivers, reproducing the same frequency band CAN'T be good. That many tweeters CANNOT integrate well, and while a meter WILL be able to show you that, if you are happy with it, then I am happy FOR you. ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 11:13 AM
I'm not worried about your comments didn't bother me and if in the future I decide to add more mids or subtract tweeter who knows I like wiring stuff up and I get carried away on your system I had the zn stret wires before the cool but I like my stinger interconnects they seem more strudy.also what kind of power/ground wire did you use o ill give you your porps on your radio I seen it when it came out and I was gonna through out my jvc till I seen that it doesn't play dvds:( and those new alpine amps that are stackable how do they perform I was gonna go with those but I like the large look later
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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 11:20 AM
audioman2007 wrote:
But is is very true that you can take a very great sub and make it sound like crap. And you can take a crappy sub and make it sound great. It all depends on how the enclosure is built and what you have powering it.
You can definitely take a great sub and make it sound like crap. I remember letting a friend of mine borrow my Adire Brahma 10 in an elcosure I built, and he had his brother-in-law install it on his Eclipse 4 channel amp. I must say that thing sounded horrible. So I looked over the install and turned down the bass boost on the amp and set the gain correctly and it finally sounded like the Brahma should. However I don't think you can make any sub sound "great". Some subs will have a peaky, boomy sound no matter what enclosure you put them in. And you will never be able to get an Audiobahn sub to sound as good as a W7 in a proper enclosure. You can only go so far with install.
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 11:48 AM
That's true the specs on the w7 compared to my subs are very different and the w7 is a monster compared to mine it s 400 plus in some places I've seen it cheaper on ebay but I have 4 subs and I replaced them with 4 w7 that's way more than overkill not to mention the power they would demand. What is everyones thought on 4 w7s in 1 car. Keep in mind powering them to a moderate level and cubic space as well
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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: haemphyst
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Just plain old #4, high strand power cable... I don't even remember the name, (Phoenix, I think) but it's nothing special. Grounded two places, one on each side of the car. I built my power distribution blocks, so I have PLENTY of space for all the power wires I need. (I often build my own stuff... Mass market so RARELY meets my needs, let alone my wants...  ) As far as the Alpine amps, they are built on the same ICEPower modules (from Bang&Olufsen) as the Eclipse amplifiers are now, so I'm expecting that they will sound the same, which means they will sound like nothing at all, the way an amplifier SHOULD sound. In fact, the toss-up was between the Alpine and the Eclipse, I knew I wanted digital, and the Eclipse sound fantastic. I chose the Alpine for the size. ------------- It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 12:14 PM
What exactly are you after? The W7 is primarily an SQ sub that is able to get pretty loud. However a purpose-built SPL sub would dominate the W7 on output. And running 4 W7's will be a very expensive venture. But a single 13W7 in a good ported enclosure should get more than loud enough for most daily drivers. I was just using the W7 as an example because I see it as the reference, cost no object, free of the usual compromises sub. You can get close to it's performance for much less.
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 12:27 PM
No I don't have 4 w7s you were comparing my subs to a w7 . So I was saying if I changed out my subs to 4 w7s that would crazy and the power drain would kill my alternator twice lol
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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: still_walkin
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Did u research whta I had in my system or looked the model numbers before you gave me your opinion I suggest you look again beacuse no where in my first post says I have 4 w7s ... be easy man
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1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 4:24 PM
I never said you did, and don't know where you are getting that from. Like I said, I was using them as an example.
Posted By: tdsteele
Date Posted: June 03, 2007 at 4:43 PM
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