Viper 5902 vs 7901?
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Topic: Viper 5902 vs 7901?
Posted By: angelars
Subject: Viper 5902 vs 7901?
Date Posted: October 03, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Does anyone know the difference between the Viper 5902, and the Viper 7901? The only one that is on the Viper website is the 5902, BUT I saw a Viper brochure that called it the 7901. Features and everything else seem identical.
Can anyone explain what the differences are?
Replies:
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 03, 2009 at 9:49 PM
i've been waiting for the "7901" for awhile now and decided to just go for the 5901 because i needed an alarm NOW! supposedly the new color remote will work with the existing 5901 alarm system, so in the future i'll just upgrade to that remote. but alas, viper's website no longer calls it the 7901 but rather the 5902. ain't that a beotch?
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 03, 2009 at 9:59 PM
argh, i can't edit yet. anyway, i think now it was a rumor that the new remote can be used with the existing 5901. it seems that the new 5902 and it's remote are far more advanced. i was hoping the rumor was true that the new remote would integrate with my 5901 but i don't see how. i think it's more than just the remote that carries all the advanced features and that the 5902 brain itself must be paired with the new remote. when anyone has any hands-on experience, PLEASE, update this thread. i'm now wishing i did wait the extra ONE MONTH to get the 5902 system instead. of course, i did get my 5901 for a little over $200 where as i'm sure the new 5902 will cost at least twice as much.
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 03, 2009 at 10:00 PM
okay, another added comment, it looks like on their website they are even playing games with the model numbers. it seems that my 5901 system is now being referred to as the 5702v. sheesh. i feel dirty and used.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: October 03, 2009 at 10:19 PM
When all is said and done the 5902v should only be around 100.00 more than the 5901, but as I understand it, it's a completely different remote (not just added color). I really need the 5902v now, but I guess I'll just have to wait for it to come out and then install it in the snow.... :(
The 5902v did will a innovations award. As soon as it's available I will order it and possibly post some videos on what the new remote is like, seeing how nothing on the viper site seems to work (demo wise).
Posted By: stittville ed
Date Posted: October 04, 2009 at 9:32 AM
bizill wrote:
i did get my 5901 for a little over $200 where as i'm sure the new 5902 will cost at least twice as much.
Where did you get the 5901 ????? I ordered one online but after 2 weeks it never got shipped so I canceled. ------------- Stittville Ed
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 06, 2009 at 10:22 AM
i just went through one of the various amazon.com sellers. that way if the sell went bad, amazon would take care of it. i installed it myself and now have no warrantee on the alarm as i'm not an authorized installer. keep that in mind.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: October 06, 2009 at 11:06 AM
It would be nice to 'officially' have a warranty, but Vipers quality is very good, and I have never had to return one for going bad. I am really not worried about losing their warranty. I bench test before I install them and if they check out OK I install and never have had any issues with their products. Besides, you can always add a warranty by buying square deal warranties. A 3 year warranty costs only 29.00 ;)
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 06, 2009 at 12:10 PM
i'm just sad they didn't release this 5902 earlier. i would have paid the difference between it and my 5901...as many others would as well. NOW i have to just keep reminding myself it was worth the $100-$200 savings.............;)
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 08, 2009 at 6:26 PM
okay, fyi, i emailed viper and asked if the new 5902 OLED remote would control the 5901 and they say YES. BUUUUUT.... they won't sell the remote individually for about a year. ...so they say... they never did get back to me when i asked if the remote would lose any functionality by not using it with the supposedly intended 5902.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: October 09, 2009 at 1:30 PM
If you want to see a video of all the remotes features, check out this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3fwrea4dB0
Looks really easy to program and use.
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 09, 2009 at 1:41 PM
i fear we may have to wait even longer to purchase the remote alone. they are telling me it won't be for sale stand-alone. i JUST installed my 5901 and only want the new remote. sux.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: October 09, 2009 at 2:07 PM
That's probably because it has the OLED screen and they are saving their stock for the 5902. As soon as they get enough 5902's in the warehouse then they will be able to sell the remote separately. Probably not until this spring I would guess. Even longer if 5902 sales are strong and they can't build up a reserve in the warehouse. The pricing for the 5902 is already starting to drop, so I might buy mine within the next couple of weeks. Just waiting for the price to drop a little bit more.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: October 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
I just ordered a Viper 5902. Will post a review when it arrives 
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 15, 2009 at 3:57 PM
i hate you. ...no i don't. i'm just JEALOUS. 
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: October 15, 2009 at 4:10 PM
You can be jealous after everything is installed and working 
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 19, 2009 at 1:50 AM
any update? this weekend has come and gone. did you install this weekend???
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: October 19, 2009 at 10:09 AM
I can't install it until I receive it....
Posted By: jmorales831
Date Posted: October 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Just got mine a couple of days ago, but owner's manual states that since the system is so complex, they're not including the INSTALLATION manual. They want you to get it installed by a pro. Plus, you need a bitwritter with V2.9, which I can't find anywhere. Does anybody have an install manual or can they put down the steps to program it for automatic transmission and everything like that? Thanks in advance. Got everything working but the Remote Start since it's preset to manual transmission.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: October 19, 2009 at 6:58 PM
That's ridiculous! The only thing that's really different about it is the remote. Mine better come with a installation manual or it's going right back!
My Bitwritter is V2.6 and it's just a few months old. I'd be surprised if they went up that many versions in just a few months. Who is giving you this information?
Might be a good idea if someone could post the link for the installation manual.
Posted By: jmorales831
Date Posted: October 19, 2009 at 8:06 PM
angelars wrote:
That's ridiculous! The only thing that's really different about it is the remote. Mine better come with a installation manual or it's going right back!
My Bitwritter is V2.6 and it's just a few months old. I'd be surprised if they went up that many versions in just a few months. Who is giving you this information?
Might be a good idea if someone could post the link for the installation manual.
I can't really remember where I saw the v2.9, but I remember it wasn't v2.6. Anyway, when I plugged in my bitwriter v2.6 it read something like "Not a compatible system" or something. Yeah, I'd really appreciate a link to the install manual if anybody out there has one. Anybody out there a Directed Dealer?
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: October 19, 2009 at 8:28 PM
As far as I know to date there is no such thing as 2.7, 2.8 or 2.9 Bitwritter OR upgrade chip. 2.6 is the current/latest version. The alarm itself is basically identical to the 5901, so 2.6 should work fine. Try another Bitwritter or alarm module to confirm that one or the other is not bad.
Posted By: jmorales831
Date Posted: October 19, 2009 at 9:35 PM
angelars wrote:
As far as I know to date there is no such thing as 2.7, 2.8 or 2.9 Bitwritter OR upgrade chip. 2.6 is the current/latest version. The alarm itself is basically identical to the 5901, so 2.6 should work fine. Try another Bitwritter or alarm module to confirm that one or the other is not bad.
Ok. Sorry about that. It actually says "In order to program this alarm, you need a bitwriter with version 2.7" I guess they're coming out with v2.7 soon. Anyway, it came with a Quick Reference guide (that huge page with the wire colors, but without the details for each wire). That'll have to do. And the back shows the steps to program with the remote. I really prefer the bitwriter though. So...I'll update when finished.
Posted By: jmorales831
Date Posted: October 21, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Finished everything up 2 nights ago. Sorry about the late update. Couldn't get online. Anyway, I used the manual from the 5701 to have something to work off of. Everything works great now. Was nearly identical as the install manual from the 5701. Still haven't found anything out about the bitwriter v2.7.
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 22, 2009 at 12:23 PM
question for 5902 owners. with the remote, when it's sitting there not being used and in idle, does the screen stay illuminated? with my 5901 the status of the alarm is displayed at ALL TIMES. with the 5902, do you have to push a button because the remote may or may not go into a "sleep mode", or is there an LED on the remote that blinks or what? thanks.
Posted By: jmorales831
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Hey bizill...the 5902 remote does go into a "sleep mode." The screen goes blank until a button is pressed or the menu wheel is moved. It only stays on for about 3 seconds after a button is pressed. There's an LED, but it only blinks when you send or recieve a command. Also, has anybody heard anything about the bitwriter v2.7 upgrade?
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: October 27, 2009 at 11:22 AM
thanks jmorales. i NO LONGER wish to purchase the upgraded remote to use with my 5901. i love being able to just look at my remote and feel safe the alarm is armed and that i didn't forget. i never using passive arming, so please don't suggest it. LOL.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: October 27, 2009 at 11:12 PM
I almost switched from the 5902 - to the 5901 WITH the new SmartStart system, so that I could control the car through my iPod, but it has limited features (not sure why since it's software driven) and it has a costly subscription, so I opted NOT to get Viper SmartStart and stick with the 5902.
Posted By: djdownfawl
Date Posted: November 02, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I am interested in buying the 5902 but i have no clue on how to install it. I dont want to spend 800 dollars and go to a dealer. I am planning to but it off ebay and do it myself or let my mechanic do it.
Is there anybody who has a installation procedure and knows how long does it take?
Do i need the bitwitter.
I am lost so please guide me in the right direction.
Thank you
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 02, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Since the 5902 is NOT a mechanical device, I would NOT take it to a "mechanic" to install.
Find someone who is MECP certified to install it correctly.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 03, 2009 at 11:38 AM
jmorales831 wrote:
has anybody heard anything about the bitwriter v2.7 upgrade?
I am going to order one today. I will keep you informed about it as soon as I get it. I believe the actual version number is 2.76.
Posted By: paul62462
Date Posted: November 05, 2009 at 11:50 PM
angelars wrote:
That's ridiculous! The only thing that's really different about it is the remote. Mine better come with a installation manual or it's going right back!
My Bitwritter is V2.6 and it's just a few months old. I'd be surprised if they went up that many versions in just a few months. Who is giving you this information?
Might be a good idea if someone could post the link for the installation manual.
------------- Paul C. Duncan
Posted By: paul62462
Date Posted: November 06, 2009 at 12:08 AM
[sorry about the other post...or lack of it...... i just installed mine & can tell you this.. #1) there is an install "sheet" just 1 page which is a block diagram nothing more but if you don't know how to wire up door locks, trunk release or starter kill, well you should not be installing this or any unit! #2) the "sheet " gives all programming options for the unit that can be done without a bitwriter #3) you need the newest bitwriter chip to do some of the features on the remote but it is NOT OUT YET...2.6 DOES NOT WORK! the unit will work but would be better with the chip #4 the "sheet" explains how to "pair" the HD remote but, says read the install manual to pair the 1 way remote. now I installed my unit with no problem although i wish the new chip was out to customize my remote
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Paul C. Duncan
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 06, 2009 at 12:30 AM
My 5902 arrives tomorrow, and I asked the company about the install guide and he said that yes, it does come with a BOOK (not a sheet). We'll see what comes when I get it tomorrow. My 2.7 chip should be here either tomorrow or early next week. It will be nice to clear up all of these questions.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 06, 2009 at 3:02 PM
OK our 5902 just arrived and I can tell you that the remote is extremely nice. Without a doubt the nicest remote I've ever seen, and I've been doing this for over 40 years. The remote arrives completely discharged, so I'll need to charge it up before I can post more details about it, but initial reaction is 10 out of 10 (maybe just wish it was a little bit thinner).
I can also confirm what jmorales831 said earlier, that it DOES need a 2.7 version bitwriter chip. Ours should be here soon so I’ll go over that here when it arrives. The install “sheet” that we received is actually a multi-paged sheet, and anyone who is MECP certified will find everything that they need to know about the install on this “Quick Reference Install Guide”. For those who are not MECP certified I recommend that you also look at the 5901 install booklet for further information. Ours did not come with a LED. I don’t know just yet if it’s missing or needs to be purchased separately. All in all the 5902 looks like an incredible system. I’ll give a more detailed review once I have some time to digest all of the information. Also, the remote can now be purchased separately. It is model number 7941V.
Posted By: faded808
Date Posted: November 06, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Wanted to know if the brain unit is the same as the 5901? Been thinking about buying this new model but if it is basiclly the same unit with an upgraded remote?
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 06, 2009 at 7:20 PM
No, this unit (5902) looks to be slightly bigger. Around 6 X 3 1/2 X 1 1/4.
Also, the temperature sensor is built in.
Posted By: neogeek
Date Posted: November 06, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Where is the temp sensor on the 5901?
Posted By: faded808
Date Posted: November 06, 2009 at 10:40 PM
angelars wrote:
No, this unit (5902) looks to be slightly bigger. Around 6 X 3 1/2 X 1 1/4.
Also, the temperature sensor is built in.
ahh yes i seen the prain and it looks to be abit bigger, I did noiced that on one plug there are alot of wires on one plug... does it have all the same features as the 5901? or are there other features that it has over the 5901?... also for the l.e.d. light, isnt the led and valet button on the antenna, same with the 5901? I think the temp sensor on the 5901 is built in also isnt it?
Posted By: neogeek
Date Posted: November 06, 2009 at 10:48 PM
yea unless it is in the valet/antenna, it should also be in the brain. Anyone up for trying to see if the remote from ..com works with the 5901?
Posted By: faded808
Date Posted: November 07, 2009 at 12:07 AM
neogeek wrote:
yea unless it is in the valet/antenna, it should also be in the brain. Anyone up for trying to see if the remote from ..com works with the 5901?
yeah, was wondering if the sensor is i. The antenna/valet area!! But i am gonna buy a bitwriter soon and was thinking of getting the new remote to see if all the featyres would work with tge 5901, but the one i seen was like 200 for just the remote!! :-/
Posted By: neogeek
Date Posted: November 07, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Boy they are strict with referencing retailer's websites... Well the remote is out there just search for it.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 07, 2009 at 1:17 PM
faded808 wrote:
[QUOTE=neogeek]i am gonna buy a bitwriter soon and was thinking of getting the new remote to see if all the featyres would work with tge 5901, but the one i seen was like 200 for just the remote!!
Pricing will come down over time. The 5902 remote has OLED technology which is a bit more expensive than just a color screen. Plus the 5902 is not just a 'remote'. It allows you to customize the remote and alarms features, simply push the side button in for 3 seconds to enter programming mode. So it does a lot more, which explains why it costs a bit more than a simple remote.
Posted By: neogeek
Date Posted: November 07, 2009 at 9:59 PM
I checked the manual of the 5902 and the LED should be on the valet switch. I'll prb order the remote soon as their aren't too many new features that the 5901 remote doesn't do and should work with the 5901 brain. Parking meter alert should be dependent on the remote and not the brain (although if it doesn't work then it isn't the end of the world).
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 09, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Bitwriter Version 2.7 is now official!
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 09, 2009 at 1:02 PM
neogeek wrote:
Parking meter alert should be dependent on the remote and not the brain
I think it is. Our 5902 main module was still sitting in the box and we were able to access the parking meter screen (on the remote) and countdown seemed to work.
Posted By: jmorales831
Date Posted: November 09, 2009 at 5:47 PM
angelars wrote:
jmorales831 wrote:
has anybody heard anything about the bitwriter v2.7 upgrade?
I am going to order one today. I will keep you informed about it as soon as I get it. I believe the actual version number is 2.76.
Hey. Just wondering where you ordered it and how much it cost. I've only had my bitwriter for about 6 months and it sucks that it's worthless with my alarm. Anyway, thanks for the update on it. Let me know if anything comes up.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: November 09, 2009 at 7:35 PM
jmorales831 wrote:
Just wondering where you ordered it and how much it cost.
We're not allowed to post retailer names but if you send me your e-mail address I will send you their name. You could also use the search engine and look for the company that mentions a doctor. I think I paid around 20 dollars for it. I bought my Bitwriter around 6 months ago too. I'll just sell the 2.6 on ebay or something. For someone with an older Bitwriter it will be a good deal.
Posted By: djdownfawl
Date Posted: November 10, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Can anybody help me out installing this i am in the NJ Morris county area. I wish to purchase the 5902 also.
I want to get this done asap plz.
Posted By: masterodisaster
Date Posted: November 19, 2009 at 11:19 PM
This 5902 is AWESOME, but the remote is quite large. You can set it to start automatically at certain temperature extremes. I don't understand why they use 7901 AND 5902 for model #s... It does NOT come with an install manual like most others, just that sheet of zone tables and a master wire diagram. The regular user manual is MUCH more detailed than others I've seen though.
Posted By: hurleyloser
Date Posted: November 30, 2009 at 3:31 AM
5902 remote IS fully compatible with 5901. Parking meter and countdown timer features are built in to the remote itself and not dependent on the brain.
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MECP Master Certified Technician
ASE A6 Certified Technician
Posted By: bizill
Date Posted: December 03, 2009 at 12:13 AM
yes the new remote works with the 5901. i don't know by experience, but 3 separate techs at dei emailed me this info.
Posted By: chocy
Date Posted: January 04, 2010 at 2:37 PM
I ordered a Viper 5902 and am patiently waiting on its arrival. I have read the reviews and looked over the official site. However, there are a few questions that have been left unanswered (or I have missed along the way). #1 does the package come with an operating unit to lower the windows or is that extra? #2 Does the alarm actually speak as an option or is that an additional part/extra? In certain reviews of videos I have heard the 5902/5901 unit have a speaking option (the alarm has an automated voice that states certain commands depending on what you press on the key fob such as stand back, starting automobile, etc,) #3 I seem to always throw my keys in my pocket. I’m afraid that the car will auto start due to the button being pressed while I move around// Can I lock my key fob between use? Thanks in advance for anyone that replies! ------------- Chocy
Posted By: chocy
Date Posted: January 04, 2010 at 2:41 PM
I ordered a Viper 5902 and am patiently waiting on its arrival. I have read the reviews and looked over the official site. However, there are a few questions that have been left unanswered (or I have missed along the way). #1 does the package come with an operating unit to lower the windows or is that extra? #2 Does the alarm actually speak as an option or is that an additional part/extra? In certain reviews of videos I have heard the 5902/5901 unit have a speaking option (the alarm has an automated voice that states certain commands depending on what you press on the key fob such as stand back, starting automobile, etc,) #3 I seem to always throw my keys in my pocket. I’m afraid that the car will auto start due to the button being pressed while I move around// Can I lock my key fob between use?
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Chocy
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: January 04, 2010 at 3:31 PM
chocy] wrote:
#1 does the package come with an operating unit to lower the windows or is that extra?
It comes with the outputs for this, but not the modules. I don't know of any alarm that comes 100% equipped for power windows.
#2 Does the alarm actually speak as an option or is that an additional part/extra?
I think either Viper or Clifford has a siren that does this as a add-on. The remote chirps and displays with an animation of what you just did, but it does not speak without the add-on.
In certain reviews of videos I have heard the 5902/5901 unit have a speaking option
If it does, then it's news to me. I have not seen any mention of this anywhere.
#3 I seem to always throw my keys in my pocket. I’m afraid that the car will auto start due to the button being pressed while I move around// Can I lock my key fob between use?
The remote is bigger than most because of all its features. I put mine in my coat pocket and so far no problems. There is no lock feature, and it would be a pain to have to constantly be turning it on/off.
Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: January 04, 2010 at 10:07 PM
i just got a phyton 5902 responder HD 2-way color lcd remote start/alarm. Its the same as the viper 5902, remote shape is a little different. cant wait to get it installed.
Posted By: chocy
Date Posted: January 06, 2010 at 8:10 AM
Thanks!!! I did more research and found the components I was refering to. They do have an option for voice. If you shop around (if you wish) you can find it for a low price. Does anyone know the diff between Viper, Python and Clifford? They all seem to have their own version of the 5902!
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Chocy
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: January 06, 2010 at 1:40 PM
chocy] wrote:
Thanks!!! I did more research and found the components I was refering to. They do have an option for voice. If you shop around (if you wish) you can find it for a low price. Does anyone know the diff between Viper, Python and Clifford? They all seem to have their own version of the 5902!
Once upon a time there was a company named Viper, who made first grade alarms. They also made alarms by a company name Python, but they weren't as good. A big competitor of theirs (who also made first grade alarms) was a company named Clifford. Lots of people liked Clifford alarms, and it took many sales away from Viper. Then one day the company that owns Viper, bought Clifford, and all was good in the kingdom...
Posted By: hurleyloser
Date Posted: January 13, 2010 at 1:44 AM
#3 I seem to always throw my keys in my pocket. I’m afraid that the car will auto start due to the button being pressed while I move around// Can I lock my key fob between use?[/QUOTE]The remote is bigger than most because of all its features. I put mine in my coat pocket and so far no problems. There is no lock feature , and it would be a pain to have to constantly be turning it on/off.[/QUOTE]
actually, there IS a lock feature. With the lock turned on, the remote will lock after 30 seconds of inactivity and will require you to press remote start, then unlock to unlock it (similar to the old menu, * on older cell phones)
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MECP Master Certified Technician
ASE A6 Certified Technician
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: January 13, 2010 at 2:52 AM
How do you turn this feature on?
Posted By: chocy
Date Posted: January 13, 2010 at 8:32 AM
actually, there IS a lock feature. With the lock turned on, the remote will lock after 30 seconds of inactivity and will require you to press remote start, then unlock to unlock it (similar to the old menu, * on older cell phones)
Thanks!!! I am glad to get this info. At times keys can get into the wrong hands (such as children) or pockets so having some type of lock is appreciated. Thanks again.
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Chocy
Posted By: hurleyloser
Date Posted: January 14, 2010 at 1:17 AM
yea, I've pressed my fair share of buttons on accident, the lock feature is nice.
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MECP Master Certified Technician
ASE A6 Certified Technician
Posted By: hurleyloser
Date Posted: January 14, 2010 at 1:27 AM
angelars wrote:
How do you turn this feature on?
with the screen off, press and hold the scroll wheel in like a button for a about 10 seconds, then you'll get into a menus with several sub-menus, I don't remember which menu it's in, but once you're at this point you'll see a few different options, such as advanced start temp settings, parking meter, etc... ------------- MECP Master Certified Technician
ASE A6 Certified Technician
Posted By: principal
Date Posted: January 14, 2010 at 6:35 AM
i did have the 5901 installed and is now using the remote for the 5902. as far as i can see it works the same way, just color and different position buttons.
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knowledge is wisdom
Posted By: chocy
Date Posted: January 27, 2010 at 2:07 PM
Gretings...in the final process of buying my 5902!!! Question: I have a factory alarm on my current vehicle which allows me to control both my windows and the trunk (release). I noticed on several sites these things are considered additional options/accessories. Does this mean I will have to purchase these accessories on top of the 5902 kit in order to keep these features (windows/trunk release) or will they continue to work because they were standard on the car when purchased? ------------- Chocy
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: January 27, 2010 at 2:26 PM
Depends.... if you can get the wiring diagrams for your car then you should be able to tap into them. Otherwise then yes, you'll need to take other measures.
Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: January 27, 2010 at 10:58 PM
I noticed when watching the Video on yuobute that the 5902 has an input for the tilt sensor. What other dedicated inputs does it have aside from the usual (trunk, hood, door, stage 1 and 2 shock. Specifically for the 506T Glass break sensor, secondary shock sensor (this doesn't need a dedicated input) And lastly the Radar sensor 508D or similar.
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Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: February 01, 2010 at 7:36 PM
Ordered this morning I guess I will answer my own question when the unit gets here.
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Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 02, 2010 at 12:18 PM
sneakycyber wrote:
Ordered this morning I guess I will answer my own question when the unit gets here.
hey, how are you going to hook yours up? d2d or w2w? Im not sure what way im going to do mine yet. i have a crysler 300c with the canbus.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: February 02, 2010 at 12:39 PM
I went D2D.
Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 02, 2010 at 10:40 PM
angelars wrote:
I went D2D.
was there any issues with going this way? the guy at dei said he always install w2w cause it easy to trouble shoot.
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: February 02, 2010 at 10:54 PM
It couldn't have been easier. You simply match the color coded wires and you're done. The hard part was programing the module because none of the instructions were accurate, but that would have been the case if we went W2W too.
Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 03, 2010 at 4:31 AM
how much time do you save by going d2d vs w2w?
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: February 03, 2010 at 1:02 PM
I've never gone W2W so I don't know, but D2D only took two or three minutes for everything....
Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 03, 2010 at 1:10 PM
angelars wrote:
I've never gone W2W so I don't know, but D2D only took two or three minutes for everything....
what kind of car did you do the install on? did you use a bitwitter for programming?
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: February 03, 2010 at 2:46 PM
2010 Mercury Milan Premier.
Yes I used a Bitwritter for programming.
Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 03, 2010 at 2:55 PM
okay, i just bought one for programing.how long does it take to do the full install remote start and alarm and programming? should I plan out 6-8hrs or less?
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: February 03, 2010 at 3:29 PM
Depends on the car, your knowledge, and other factors. Don't rush :p
Posted By: monty862
Date Posted: February 07, 2010 at 12:42 AM
Was this the install you did on the Milan? If so, did you have to run the flex relay wire on Harness 3 to the Key Sense on your ignition? I read on a wiring guide on Installogy's website that said it was required to disarm the factory alarm. Getting ready to button up my steering column and don't want to yet if this wire needs to be installed. Thanks.
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Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: February 07, 2010 at 1:45 AM
Was this the install you did on the Milan?
Yes...
If so, did you have to run the flex relay wire on Harness 3 to the Key Sense on your ignition?
I don't remember running anything to key sense. I could check my notes if you want but to disarm the factory alarm I think you just need to do the door locks.
Posted By: hurleyloser
Date Posted: February 09, 2010 at 12:47 AM
sneakycyber wrote:
I noticed when watching the Video on yuobute that the 5902 has an input for the tilt sensor. What other dedicated inputs does it have aside from the usual (trunk, hood, door, stage 1 and 2 shock. Specifically for the 506T Glass break sensor, secondary shock sensor (this doesn't need a dedicated input) And lastly the Radar sensor 508D or similar.
The unit only has the hood, trunk, door, and multiplex inputs. Using the bitwritter, you can assign what sensor is connected to the multiplex input. You can choose from tilt, glass, shock, motion, etc. It DOES NOT have more inputs than the previous models, just the ability to select what shows on the screen. ------------- MECP Master Certified Technician
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Posted By: faded808
Date Posted: February 10, 2010 at 2:16 PM
hurleyloser wrote:
sneakycyber wrote:
I noticed when watching the Video on yuobute that the 5902 has an input for the tilt sensor. What other dedicated inputs does it have aside from the usual (trunk, hood, door, stage 1 and 2 shock. Specifically for the 506T Glass break sensor, secondary shock sensor (this doesn't need a dedicated input) And lastly the Radar sensor 508D or similar.
The unit only has the hood, trunk, door, and multiplex inputs. Using the bitwritter, you can assign what sensor is connected to the multiplex input. You can choose from tilt, glass, shock, motion, etc. It DOES NOT have more inputs than the previous models, just the ability to select what shows on the screen.
would this work if I will be using the 5902 remote on my 5901 alarm?
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: February 10, 2010 at 2:56 PM
Someone asked that question before. It's either in this thread or you'll need to search for it. Off hand I don't see why it wouldn't work...
Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: February 11, 2010 at 9:10 AM
Thanks for the reply. I am still waiting for my unit to be shipped since it was apparently back ordered. What is the default setting for the multiplexed input. I don't have a bitwriter yet.
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Posted By: hurleyloser
Date Posted: February 12, 2010 at 10:03 PM
I think default setting is shock sensor, but I could be wrong; and faded, yes the 5901 and 5902 are interchangeable.
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Posted By: faded808
Date Posted: February 13, 2010 at 2:45 AM
hurleyloser wrote:
I think default setting is shock sensor, but I could be wrong; and faded, yes the 5901 and 5902 are interchangeable.
Yeah I know thanks, But do you know if the functions work with the 5901? like I seen on a # demo of the remote it has the sensor and tell each one what has been triggered!! is there any difference in the install or you would just have to program it with the bitwriter?
Posted By: hurleyloser
Date Posted: February 13, 2010 at 10:54 PM
yea they will still work, you still have to program what you would like the sensor to show up as on the screen. Only difference is on the 5901 remote it will only show up as text.
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Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 14, 2010 at 11:43 AM
when starting out to hook of one of these alarms, do you disconnect the car battery or leave it hooked up during the install? do I start by hooking up all wires to the alarm 1st or the bypass and remote start module hook up and programming?
Posted By: monty862
Date Posted: February 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Depends on the vehicle as to disconnecting the battery. A lot of GM models will lock out the radio as an anti-theft measure if it loses battery power. Others it may trigger the check engine light. Probably need to check with a dealer. As to where you start it really is up to you. Find a place to mount the "brain" then you'll be able to decide which way you'll route the wires. I did the remote start first. Take your time and double check all wires to make sure you have the right one, These guys on here are very knowledgeable and helpful. Ask questions if your not sure. If you haven;t done any installs or are at least mechanicaly inclined you might think twice about DIY. Good luck
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Posted By: hurleyloser
Date Posted: February 19, 2010 at 2:39 AM
not a good idea to disconnect the battery for the install of an alarm/remote start. You will need to test your wires, hence the need for the battery being connected. The most important thing to remember is to test your wires with a digital multimeter before making your connections!
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Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 19, 2010 at 2:39 PM
thanks guy. even if you have a wire diagram of your car, do you guys check every wire? or some or most?
Posted By: monty862
Date Posted: February 19, 2010 at 3:17 PM
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Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: February 19, 2010 at 6:57 PM
If it's the first time that I've worked on that kind of car then yes, I still verify all wires. The wiring diagram just saves you lots of time...
Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 20, 2010 at 4:43 AM
okay, thanks guys
Posted By: hurleyloser
Date Posted: February 20, 2010 at 11:52 PM
TROC4434 wrote:
thanks guy. even if you have a wire diagram of your car, do you guys check every wire? or some or most?
ALWAYS test your wires before connecting to them. If you've done the car several times and are confident about the connection because you've memorized color or pin location, then go for it. The wiring diagrams are only a guide, and they are not always correct. ------------- MECP Master Certified Technician
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Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 22, 2010 at 4:52 PM
hey guys, when I install the system I would like to use the poi taps instead of soldering. I heard good things about them. That would help on hard to reach area and time. what do you guys think? https://www.posi-lock.com/posiplug.html
Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: February 22, 2010 at 7:45 PM
Most installers don't trust anything other than strip, Solder, Tape for good reason with an average of 10+ Installs a day and several hundred a year the The risk of failure is to high. For one install on your own vehicle do whatever makes it easier on you. If it screws up its your own car and your own fault.
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Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 22, 2010 at 9:14 PM
what do you guys do about hard to reach area?
Posted By: monty862
Date Posted: February 22, 2010 at 9:33 PM
Well this is off topic, but if it is your own car and the possibility of a poor connection isn't a major concern for you then use the posi taps. However, I would not recommend using them on any of the ignition wires! On signal wires like the brake switch, door, hood or trunk triggers, you could probably get away with the taps. I'm about to finish up my personal vehicle install and all my connections have been soldered and heat shrink tubing used. Some were a pain in the a** to get to, but I know I won't have to do it again. It is really up to you, but the majority of posters here are gonna tell you to solder. Good luck with whatever you go with.
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Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: February 22, 2010 at 11:46 PM
TROC4434 wrote:
what do you guys do about hard to reach area?
Take the car apart...
Also, we ALWAYS soldier ALL of our connections. A little something we learned when we worked on police cars, ambulances, etc.... Do it once. Do it right.
Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: February 23, 2010 at 12:30 PM
where do you guys start first? with the bypass,remote start or alarm?
Posted By: angelars
Date Posted: February 23, 2010 at 1:53 PM
TROC4434 wrote:
where do you guys start first? with the bypass,remote start or alarm?
Depends on the situation and the time that you have... If it's a job then it doesn't matter where you start because you'll need to finish everything eventually. If it's my car then I always start with what's most important, which is usually alarm, but if I can install something else really quick then I'll do that.
Posted By: solattack77
Date Posted: October 20, 2010 at 3:14 AM
had a quick question for you guys, looking into this alarm because i like the display and the features. however i cant find out if it has a turbo timer option or not. I read on there site that it has a parking countdown feature. i also read that it is a switched option. was hoping one of you guys could clarify.
Thanks in advance
Posted By: TROC4434
Date Posted: October 20, 2010 at 11:37 PM
solattack77 wrote:
had a quick question for you guys, looking into this alarm because i like the display and the features. however i cant find out if it has a turbo timer option or not. I read on there site that it has a parking countdown feature. i also read that it is a switched option. was hoping one of you guys could clarify.
Thanks in advance
I finished installing the alarm/remote start last month. I love this remote start/alarm and it features. It does have turbo timer( 1,3 and 5 minutes turbo timer mode. it also has a (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT
for diesel cars and trucks. the parking meter feature is for parking meters so you get an alert so you wont get a parking ticket.the countdown is how many minutes until the remote start will shut down
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