2000 Ram Power Door Locks

Hello all,

I am looking for information on getting the power door locks connected in my 2000 Dodge Ram. I have everything else connected at this point except for the locks.

According to Alpine Dealer, my SEC-8063 does not need relays to accomplish this.. though I am beginning to suspect otherwise. I used the wealth of information found here and tried connecting the ORANGE / Purple (DL) and the Pink/Purple (DU) to the WHITE/ Brown (DL) and WHITE/ Green (DU) respectively. I get nothing... dead.. like I hooked to completely wrong wires.

Do I need relays to accomplish this ? Does anyone have a diagram or explanation that can help me past this hurdle ? I think my last alarm install was 8 years ago.. so I am pretty rusty.

Also to clarify, I do not have an existing factory alarm or keyless entry.

Here is link to Alpines install guide for this alarm.

https://ecominet2.alpine-usa.com/html/asb/owner/sec-8063_im.pdf

Any help would be great !

Thanks in advance,

Glenshadow

You will need a reverse polaity for unlock and a positive polarity for the lock. That means that you will need to reverse the polarity on the Alpine's ( - ) output lock wire.

Thanks Jeff,

Just a point of clarification.... You say I need to reverse the polarity on the Alpines (-) output lock wire... (WHITE/ brown per the schematic)

Does this mean that I should be using a set of relays and wiring it as per the 5 Wire Alternating 12 Volts Positive Door Locks diagram on this site ?

I guess if I had a schematic I could pull it off.. but the old brain just isn't kicking in here....

Is this the same as what you had responded to in Ziplok's post under Dodge Ram Power Locks ?

I feel silly that I am stumped on this, knowing that Electronics Engineering was my degree in college....but that was 10 years ago and I don't use it anymore !

hahaha....

If you know of a link to a schematic, point me there and I can figure it out.. Thanks again....

Hey Glenshadow, it seems that age creeps up to all of us sometime and hits us in the head .... that's my excuse for memory loss . Anyway, the Dodge RAM uses two systems for there keyless entry/lock system as you noticed. The diagram located here: https://www.the12volt.com/doorlocks/page3.asp#5w is correct. Just wire one relay to the UNLOCK wire of the Dodge and for the LOCK wire, you will need to reverse the polarity of the Alpine lock output because it's only a (-) output and the Dodge requires a (+) input to lock the doors.

Hello Jeff,

Thanks for all the info.. I am almost there... finally got a chance to work with it today...

What way would you say is the easiest way to reverse the polarity on the Lock ? I am thinking probably too broad... but thinking I have to tie something HI (+12V).

Am I going to need to jump through hoops to come up with something that reverses the polarity on this ?

Or do i just wire the Alpine (-) lead to (+) ? Thinking this is an output .. so don't know that I wanna do that....

Or am I just thinking too much ?

Actually.. let me clarify this... I have the following revision of the schematic...

https://www.glenshadow.net/relay.jpg

Not working at this point. I didn't wire up Lock so far because I am unsure how to rev polarity...

I disarm and get no unlock. Pulse is set at 900m sec. Do I actually need to go between the Motor and Switch physically ?

I popped the door wire boot and spliced there. I did not actually go run wires into doors and then in between motor and switch.

I am irked to the point that  I would pay my local shop the $50 to do wiring.. but they are NEVER available..... pathetic....

What am I not doing correctly here ?

Thanks again for your time and patience !

Here is an updated picture of what your relays should look like for this system:

https://www.velocitymotorsport.com/Dodge_Door_Lock_relays.gif

Try this out and post your results.

Ok.. thanks Jeff..

I will go give this a whirl..... maybe my relays bit the dust.... I have to check them out....

Now that I have a clear mind first thing in the morning....

hehehe.....

I will let you know the outcome.

Ok Jeff... here is what I got....

Got them hooked up.. lock only.. I didn't wanna cut unlock wire (Pink/Purple) again since I did once already.. just in case I am in wrong place.

I am in drivers side kick area and have the leads spliced in on female side of white connector (side from inside vehicle).

I arm the alarm.. I hear the Lock relay work as it should... but nothing happens. I checked with meter and it is only pulsing like 2.79 volts max.. (no peak hold on this meter)

I have this wired to constant 12 volts and verified it is in fact ~12.79 volts.

Hmmmmm.....  do I maybe have to go elsewhere to tap into these wires ? Diagram dipicts Motor Side and Switch side.... I would think that means a headache going into the door and splicing there.

I will try another relay to to make sure.. also I will verify that pulse from Alpine is 900Msec

Any ideas ?

Thanks again.

You will need to go into the door between the swictch and the motor... doohh !!  Sorry, but it has to be inline between the two for this type of system.

OK... I got the following hooked up now:

https://www.glenshadow.net/ram/Dodge_Door_Lock_relays.jpg

This works for lock. I can't get unlock to do anything though....Half way there !

And I have a kick ass valet switch to boot.....

https://www.glenshadow.net/ram/valet-1.jpg

Since I am a non smoker... hehehehehe

I know I need a +12 Vdc pulse on the Pink Violet to unlock it.. as that is what I measure across the terminals when I use the switch. So is this where I am going to need to REV Polarity on the WHITE/ Green ?

From what you have on the diagram that you ave done so far with the lock, you will have to do the same to the unlock. Grab the wires at the same place that you did for the lock wires and hook up the relay like it is shown on the diagram that you have  : https://www.glenshadow.net/ram/Dodge_Door_Lock_relays.jpg and it should work. Have you tried to wire up this relay in this configuration yet ? The target input wire for the Dodge unlock should be a (+) pulse.

Yes.. I have it wired as in the diagram you saw.

Only difference, I grabbed the unlock wire (pink/purple) at the kick panel this time.... I was looking all in the door and couldn't find the same colors going to switch and motor. Switch has one set of colors... and going to the motor is ORANGE / Black and I forget the other.... so for lock I spliced right behind the switch.....

I can give it another round today.. I ended up installing some other stuff yesterday after I got to that point... so fresh eyes today and I will let you know what I come up with.

I know this is a pain but you wmay have to go into the door and cut the wire between the stich and the motor & place the relay in line of the cut wire in the door. Some vehicles you don't have to but other you do.

Hmmm... now I know why I went for career in computers....

OK.. I found one problem.. the Alpine Unlock was not pulsing anything out. I checked the Lock and it pulsed .61 volts, and the Unlock Other (WHITE/ Blue) pulsed .61 volts when activated respectively.

OK.. switched wire to Unlock other (WHITE/ blue). Now when I connect up the unlock relay... it forces unlock and stays unlock... basically stuck.. If I push down on the door lock it is stuck solid.. so seems like somehow it is stuck 12 volts once I connect up the unlock relay.

I tried switching 85 and 86 and no difference.

Tried 2 other relays... same thing.

?

The WHITE  / BLUE wire is the priority unlock wire for passenger and all other doors. That is very odd that the output on the WHITE/ GREEN wire has 0 voltage. Did you place a ( + ) 12 volts on the positive leasd of your multimeter and then put the negative lead on the WHITE/ GREEN wire and press the remote to toggle the unlock wire ? It should have given you a reading of 12 volts for about 1/2 second ( 2 times ).  Switching the 85 & 86 pin does not make a difference as long as they are not the same polarity it doesn't matter.

If the way you tested the wire is the same as above, you may have a burned out unlock output on the 8063 ! Make sure of this by doing the test outlined above and if you get 0 as a reading , then bring it back to the place you got it from and tell them that the unlock output on the alarm is fried.

OK.. When I try the testing method described above.. here is what I get.

I plug the positive lead of my meter into +12Vdc, and the negative lead into the WHITE/ Green. I come up with +12Vdc. When I toggle, I lose a few tenths of a volt because dome light comes on.. but nothing drastic. I tried this with the WHITE/ Blue as well and get same results.

For kicks I tried against the WHITE/ Brown (Alpine Unlock) and I get +2VDC. When I toggle, it goes to +12Vdc for a few seconds and then back to 2 volts. (yes two volts)

Now I tried all this with the relays all removed. I can try hooking back up the Lock relay and retesting for kicks.

*Update... put lock relay back in.. verified that it works.. tested both Unlock Wires off Alpine.. both stay at +12Vdc constant.*

Ok Jeff,

I called Alpine and asked went through it with Tech Support. He asked me to do continuity to ground on both the lock and unlocks.

The Lock as we know works fine. White and Green did not work, and WHITE/ Blue did work. Basically there is something wrong with the brain. He said that is the ultimate test and it failed.

I really thank you for all your help and time. If I was in Canada, I would stop up and buy you an ice cold Molson XXX.

I will update when I get the unit back from Alpine approx 10 days from now.

Thanks again,

Glenshadow

Good to hear that I wasn't leading you on a wild goose chase for wires and what not !! When you get the new brain in, let us know and post if you have any other problems and I'm sure I'll be around.....

later

Hello Jeff,

I finally got around to putting my brain back in..... I must tell you I am a lot more responsive now with this new one.

Er... the Alarm is... The diagram works, the doors do their things just as they should.... and all is finally finished. Alpine got me a replacement in 3 days. Pretty nice of them ! I just got too lazy to do it.... so I picked the hottest day of the year yesterday and slaved away at it.  Even now the alarm seems to respond a whole lot smoother to commands... like entering programming mode the first time I do it.. and arm/disarm on first shot. Guess my previous brain was an under achiever !

I just wanted to thank you for all your help !

Thanks again,

Glenshadow

Glad to be of service and thanks for taking the time to post your thanks . If we can be of more assistance to you in the futire, post your questions and someone here will be here to answer all your questions.

Here is an updated picture of what your relays should look like for this system:

https://www.velocitymotorsport.com/Dodge_Door_Lock_relays.gif

Try this out and post your results.

Here ya go.

https://www.glenshadow.net/ram/pics/installs/alarm/Dodge_Door_Lock_relays.jpg