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hi guys new to here and hoping someone can help me. i bought a second hand clifford intelliguard 950 with intellistart 4 added. now this came out the same car as i have so it was easy to wire in i got it all working apart from the siren it wont chirp and wont make any noise even when the alarm goes off.

i contacted the guy i got it from and he assured me it was making a noise when he sold me it and confirmed he had not changed any of the plugs around i checked the wires to the siren while i set the alarm off now the red is getting a constant 12v but i dont know what should be going to the other wires there is red,black,yellow and green i think.

any help would be great thanks and merry xmas guys

The siren has an internal battery that charges only when the car is running.

I would drive the car for several days and then see if your chirps and panic return.

If not, then get a new siren. 515C I think is the one you need and they are on ebay all the time.

i dont think its that as if it was it would sound when the alarm goes off if the internal batt is flat all you lose is your chirps unless you dissconect the battery

Normally the batteries fail, you will get the alarm sounding but not the chirps. If you've neither check the fuse on the siren lead at the alarm CPU. By the way it costs almost as much to get the batteries from Maplin as to buy a new siren.

howie ll wrote:

Normally the batteries fail, you will get the alarm sounding but not the chirps. If you've neither check the fuse on the siren lead at the alarm CPU. By the way it costs almost as much to get the batteries from Maplin as to buy a new siren.

hey thanks for reply.

i have checked the fuse and thats okay like i said it is getting 12v to the siren but i just dont think its getting a signal from the brain. because the alarm has intellistart fitted there are lots of wires and plugs that are the same and i dont know if one is maybe in wrong.

im pretty sure the siren is good as i trust the guy i bought it from im really confused with this one.

does anyone know what wire to probe to the siren to check for a pulse or signal? thanks guys

If the fuse checks out, there is nothing else you can do the red is 12v+ the black is ground and the green and yellow are data, you can't test them and you've wired something wrong! I would contact a competent installer and have them check it out and re-install if neccessary by the way what car make model year is it.? The Intellistart would have nothing to do with the alrarm's functioning except that 2amp fuse I mentioned also controls the data signal to the Intellistart and if that fuse is blown the Intellistart won't function.

the make and model is a nissan sunny gtir 1990. intellistart is working fine .

most of the wires are coulor coded and some only fit in one port but there are a few that are the same i think its the data port ones the 3 pin plugs. is there a special way that they should be wired in? or is my siren goosed cheers

Howie, i know you are the clifford guru...but in my experience, dead batteries in the G4 sirens have stopped both my chirps and panic output. Maybe it was just my bad luck?

Stru...I am assuming you have checked the programming grid to make sure that all (or any of the 6) siren sounds are set to on and that long term chirp silencing is set to off?

hi omar

No i dont have a cliffnet cable for my alarm to check the settings.

But i thought that the alarm could not be turned off only the chirps and i have asked the guy i got it from and he said the alarm and chirps were deffinatly switched on and working.

So its either that the siren has been damaged in transit or there is something plugged in wrong.

Do you think that if i took it to a alarm specialist they would test my siren?

thanks for the replys guys

Omar, the UK spec Clifford Cat l uses the siren's batteries to generate chirps and the alarm to generate alarm engaged sounds. The 950 was the upper level Cat 1 alarm, the Concept 650 was the lowe level think 550 with armoured CPU, battery back up siren. All are obsolete, replaced with Concept 650 Mk ll, this is a 950 with just a dual zone prox and the latest remotes. Please Omar don't encourage owners to use the Wiz, it's glitched enough!

ok i checked all my wiring and it is deffo set up properly also took all the tape of the siren wires and stuff to check for bad wires all are good im going to see if the alarm installers near me have a siren i can test before i buy a new one. cheers

stru8n wrote:

No i dont have a cliffnet cable for my alarm to check the settings.

I meant checking the settings thru the valet button and the progamming grid listed in the owners manual.

Or is that not available in the UK? I am just assuming it is.

Howie: I have only had problems with the tach, nothing else in cliffnet. Are there other bugs I am not aware of? I personally love the cliffnet.

OmarR] wrote:

QUOTE=stru8n]
No i dont have a cliffnet cable for my alarm to check the settings.

I meant checking the settings thru the valet button and the progamming grid listed in the owners manual.

Or is that not available in the UK? I am just assuming it is.

hi omar. i dont think it is avalible with the valet button even if it was i cannot hear the confirmation chirps so i am kind of screwed lol cheers

Omar of course it's available here but the installer section, which doesn't actually concern the siren is only available to people like me. I stil say we have a wiring fault, all the plugs only go one way and are colour coded.

Ok...I mean accessing the users programming grid, NOT the installers programming grid.

All the siren modes (at least in the U.S) are in the users grid. If all siren tones are turned off and long term silence chirping is turned on, the alarm will emit NO sound, whether it be arm/disarm or panic.

If this is the case, stru should at least try entering the users grid using the valet code. The siren will chirp once and the LED will glow solid.

If he doesn't get that single chirp, at least we can then move on to faulty siren or faulty wiring.

Ok. I finally went and downloaded the user manual.

I am starting to see the differences between U.S and UK.

Howie, there are no siren options in the installers menu for the 950? If not, then I agree with you, this is a wiring issue. For the siren to not arm/disarm chirp AND not panic definitely sounds like wiring problems.

ok i have tryed going in to menu with valet button but still no chirps.

like howie said the plugs are mostly coulor coded the siren plug has a red 2 pin plug for constant power/ground and then there is a plug from the intellistart to the siren wire that then plugs in to the brain and this plug is a 3 pin one im assuming its the same kind of plug that is used with the cliffnet cable because there is a few places this can be plugged in on both units its a rectangular shape with cut edjes on one side with 3 pins. i have tryed this on most of the plugs that accept it but still nothing.

so i think my siren is broke

thanks

Hi howie i need to ask a question i am intrested in putting the turbo timer output on my alarm to good use can you advise me the best way to do this thanks

Take one of your unused aux outputs such as the RED / white, set it to timed, 1+minute, run to 85 on relay, 86 and 87 permanent live via a 30amp fuse, 30 to ign side of ign, then whilst engine is running press trunk release button to activate aux, remove key and vehicle will run for a minute.