killswitch working off seatbelt
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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: killswitch working off seatbelt
Posted By: dvaldez0989
Subject: killswitch working off seatbelt
Date Posted: September 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM
i have a customer that wants to do a killswitch off of his seatbelt. the vehicle is a 2005 ford f-250 would anybvody happen to know what wire is the seatbelt sensor and if it is a positive or negative.
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Posted By: yimke
Date Posted: September 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM
lol that's a first, but probably an innovative idea for safety reasons. Car manufacturers should probably look a little more in depth into this post.
Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: September 10, 2009 at 5:48 PM
They actually are, as we speak. Heard something a couple of weeks ago about this. Some guy built some kind of prototype and was offered a ton of money to sell his invention. I'll see if I can find some info.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: September 10, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Prototype? I could build it in a couple minutes. Just need to wire a relay as follows:
86 - ignition
85 - (-) trigger from seat belt sensor.
Cut starter wire in half...
87 - one side of starter wire
30 - other side of starter wire
dvaldez, to find the wire go to the seat belt anchor (under the drivers seat). You should find probably 2 wires going to it. One will probably be constant ground, the other will only show ground when the seat belt is inserted.
Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: September 10, 2009 at 8:18 PM
So could I..but that wasn't my point...I was talking about automobile makers incorporating this into every automobile. I doubt they will just wire in a relay and call it good. My reaction was the same as yours though Jworm....I couldn't believe someone didn't already have a patent on this.
Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: September 10, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Didn't Volkswagen have something like this a few years back?
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Posted By: 91stt
Date Posted: September 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM
The wire color should be BROWN / Light Blue and it goes ground when buckled
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 11, 2009 at 2:05 AM
Didn't something similar come up a few weeks ago and isn't this wiring DATA on some vehicles, having said that it's a "why didn't I think of that idea?" I think it was Volvo, how many Volvos have I driven over the last 20 years with the seat belts left buckled up? Incidentally does any one work on them any more, have'nt done anything except the odd Sat Nav and phone kit on them in the last 10 years.
Posted By: Thack79
Date Posted: September 11, 2009 at 8:00 AM
its bad enuf having to hear the beep when its not buckled but goodness. lol
Posted By: dvaldez0989
Date Posted: September 11, 2009 at 9:10 AM
i already put in the viper 5901 with built in killswitch. to add this on top of that do i cut the purple wire going to the starter side in half??
Posted By: Thack79
Date Posted: September 11, 2009 at 11:11 AM
yes. they will be attach to the relay going in opposite directions one at 30 and one at 87
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM
I THINK in those comments you all mean 87a not 87
Posted By: Thack79
Date Posted: September 11, 2009 at 3:04 PM
yeah i think what jworm has is to allow the car to start with the seatbelt buckeled.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: September 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM
howie ll wrote:
I THINK in those comments you all mean 87a not 87
No. I meant 30 and 87, not 30 and 87a.
86 has ignition, another poster confirmed the seat belt wire shows ground when connected. Thus 30 and 87 would be connected when the ignition is on and the seat belt is connected.
Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: September 11, 2009 at 4:55 PM
dvaldez0989 wrote:
i already put in the viper 5901 with built in killswitch. to add this on top of that do i cut the purple wire going to the starter side in half??
You would cut the key side (green I believe). If you cut the starter side, the customer would have to leave the seat belt connected to have the remote start work.
Posted By: triniforever
Date Posted: September 11, 2009 at 6:40 PM
its funny that u guys talk about this topic but on my job we have forklifts on the back of the delivery trucks called a moffet, and it took me a while to figure out that the darn thing wont move if u dont plug the seatbelt in.lol a safety feature i guess
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Posted By: Thack79
Date Posted: September 12, 2009 at 12:30 PM
im getting confused by the word "kill switch" kill usually means turn off or shut down so im not sure what he is trying to do. if its starting the car. then it is 87 and 30. because when the seat belt clicks the relay will allow 87 and 30 to start the car.
Posted By: OmarR
Date Posted: September 12, 2009 at 1:11 PM
mikvot wrote:
They actually are, as we speak. Heard something a couple of weeks ago about this. Some guy built some kind of prototype and was offered a ton of money to sell his invention. I'll see if I can find some info.
https://www.nobucklenostart.com/
Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: September 12, 2009 at 7:18 PM
OmarR] wrote:
mikvot wrote:
They actually are, as we speak. Heard something a couple of weeks ago about this. Some guy built some kind of prototype and was offered a ton of money to sell his invention. I'll see if I can find some info.
https://www.nobucklenostart.com/
Thanks Omar...that's who I was thinking of, just couldn't remember what show he was on.
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