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09 Nissan 370Z, Alarm/Remote Start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 04, 2024 at 6:47 PM


Topic: 09 Nissan 370Z, Alarm/Remote Start

Posted By: soundnsecurity
Subject: 09 Nissan 370Z, Alarm/Remote Start
Date Posted: September 15, 2009 at 3:41 PM

im working on installing remotestart on a 09 370Z with the pushbutton starter and smartkey i dont think i need wire colors for locks and doorpin because the bypass should take care of that but i do need any info on interfacing with the pushbutton starter and also any other tips will be appreciated.

thanks,

Dan



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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: September 15, 2009 at 5:45 PM
also, im using the audiovox tech sheet and i dont trust it at all, but it says that everything should be at the BCM but it doesn't say where the BCM is. i think i found it in the passenger kickpanel but i cant find any of the wires i need there. can someone shed some light on my situation? and a DEI tech sheet would be awesome too if someone can get their hands on one so i can cross reference it with the audiovox sheet.

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Posted By: flobee4
Date Posted: September 15, 2009 at 9:59 PM
I uploaded a PDF of the DEI Tech Sheet. It my first upload so hopefully it works, its in the download section here on the12volt. Link below:

09 Nissan 370Z





Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: September 16, 2009 at 9:19 AM

flobee4 wrote:

I uploaded a PDF of the DEI Tech Sheet. It my first upload so hopefully it works, its in the download section here on the12volt. Link below:

09 Nissan 370Z


i <3 u, thank you so much and you have no idea how much that just helped me out.



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Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: September 16, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Here is a link to the service manual for that vehicle - https://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-owners-manual-service-manuals/2759-2009-370z-service-manual.html

It may help you, it may not.  It will, at least, show you where componenets are, what color the wires are, pin numbers, and the function of the signal on that wire.



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Kevin Pierson




Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: September 16, 2009 at 12:13 PM

flobee4 wrote:

I uploaded a PDF of the DEI Tech Sheet. It my first upload so hopefully it works, its in the download section here on the12volt. Link below:

09 Nissan 370Z


How do you like the "new" tech info fancy pictures and all.... provided to all by Astrostart (DEI of Canada)

I payed 300 dollars for this info, and pay an update fee every year..... you as a DEI dealer get it for FREE?





Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: September 16, 2009 at 12:37 PM

just curious, but am i going to need to rig something up to bypass/fool the car into thinking the brake pedal is pressed for it to remote start? im not that far into the install yet but i am just thinking ahead.



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Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: September 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM
not sure if this helps but i did an 09 MKS push button and i i wired up a relay like this for the brake cut the brake wire in half

87 to ing source i tried using the starter wire but it doesnt send 12 soon enough for the car to start

87A to switch side of cut wire and also to the brake shutdown on the remote start system

30 to the other half of the cut brake wire

85 to 12v

86 to status output

this way the car will see the brake light on and start the car up but it will also shut the car down when you hit the brake
the only down fall to this is the brake lights stay on when remote started

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: September 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM

chev104275 wrote:

not sure if this helps but i did an 09 MKS push button and i i wired up a relay like this for the brake cut the brake wire in half

87 to ing source i tried using the starter wire but it doesnt send 12 soon enough for the car to start

87A to switch side of cut wire and also to the brake shutdown on the remote start system

30 to the other half of the cut brake wire

85 to 12v

86 to status output

this way the car will see the brake light on and start the car up but it will also shut the car down when you hit the brake
the only down fall to this is the brake lights stay on when remote started

yeah, thats pretty much how i was thinking i would need to do it, i guess one more relay cant hurt.



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Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: September 16, 2009 at 4:12 PM
i had 3 relays in the MKS

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: September 16, 2009 at 4:21 PM

ok. i cant get this thing to turn over at all for remotestart. not with just the key in the car or with just the bypass. everything seems to be getting power because all the lights on the dash come on just as if you were trying to start it with the key. i cant rule out that it is a bypass problem, the bypass is an omega IM07 with the pkn3 firmware and i just re flashed it with the updated firmware that supposedly is for the 370Z. im just at a loss with this one.

the alarm im using is a viper 5901.

i have both starters, both ignitions, and both acc hooked up and all of them are relay isolated.

you guys have any tips or know something i might have missed? this is my first remote start on a push to start car so i guess you could say im an experienced noob right now so even basic info might be useful right now.

thanks

Dan



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Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: September 17, 2009 at 9:36 AM

so i couldn't get it to start yesterday and im still in the same situation, ive got everything working except the remote start.  does anyone have a diagram of the actual starter buttom because im thinking of just trying to interface directly with the button so a pin out would be really nice.

heres what i have done so far:

i test ed all of the outputs from the alarm to make sure everything gets activated and that is all fine. the only thing i can think of is maybe there isanother acc or ignition that needs to see power. but everything on the remote started side is working as it should.



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Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: September 17, 2009 at 9:53 AM

It's in the BCS.pdf file of the service manual.

It says that the push button switches to ground on a brown wire at pin 89 of the BCM.

How are you going to stop someone from driving off with the car if it is started in this manner?  The brake shut down will not shut it down, nor will over rev protection, nor the remote start time out (nor the remote, etc).

The only way to shut the car off will be to push the button again.



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Kevin Pierson




Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: September 17, 2009 at 5:39 PM

see, thats what i dont get. the brown wire at the BCM should be the same wire at the switch, at least thats how it is on the dei tech sheet.  if i rig it up to act like the push button then the car just starts and runs with no way to kill it but thats the same wire they want you to use at the bcm. 

i basically got it running when i had it hooked direct to the switch but i had the problems you mentioned earlier.  i can set it up to use the aux channel to pulse the brake shutdown wire and give another pulse to the brown wire which effectively shuts down the car with the remote but there is still the little problem of anyone can just jump into the car and drive off with it.  this car is such a pain, but hopefully when it comes back i can try a different bypass and maybe be ok.  ill keep everyone posted. and im still open to suggestions from anyone who thinks they have any ideas



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Posted By: mchip
Date Posted: December 03, 2009 at 9:25 PM

You need to send a (-) to the brown wire on the BCM.

I got the same trouble on a 370Z with manuel transmission... I always install DirektStart remote starter (DSE) and I use the gray wire (neg pulse when shut down) but on this car I installed a Compustart 2 ways... and I cant found a solution for a negative pulse when the remote starter shut down... anoyone know well the compustart and got a solution for me ?





Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 04, 2009 at 6:37 AM

hey KTM, i think as a directed dealer you still have to pay for it. My friends shop sells lots of DEI products, but his wiring guides are astroflex (great info IMO) just recently he started to use Fortins new wiring guide, and its just as good as astros. The only thing is, to access the diagrams from fortin,  its

1) become a dealer of fortin
2) use the 2day serial number shipped with the CAN-SL2, key-override-all, and Honda-SL3 only.

for push button starts, many would use the door pin as a shutdown alternative for the brakes. This is because the newer push buttons require you to hold the brakes for it to start.






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