clifford650 intellistart wount stay start

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Topic: clifford650 intellistart wount stay start

Posted By: i-vtec
Subject: clifford650 intellistart wount stay start
Date Posted: September 18, 2009 at 7:29 AM

Hi.
I press the G5* once, get 2 flashes and it starts, then immediately cuts out. Why?

I have tried to programme the RPM,I get all the chirps when programming apart from the confirmations,
I should either get.
2 chirps to confirm RPM Learned
1 chirp RPM not learned ( Check BLACK/ Grey Wire connection )

I know this BLACK/ Grey is connected because when it was discounted the car cranked longer, when connected its 100% correct crank time and starts the car.

And I spouse due to the above is the reason why the anti Hi-Jax dont work when door is opened while driving.

it works If pin is not entered after started and brake paddle is pressed.its asks for the code,brake light flashes, correct code entered to disarm the anti hi-jax.

please can someone put me in the right direction, as how can i resolve the above.

thank you for your time.

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Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: September 18, 2009 at 3:47 PM

any1

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: September 18, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Howard! posted_image

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Posted By: scirocco16v
Date Posted: September 19, 2009 at 1:01 AM

any chance there is a factory anti theft fuel cut such as a transponder that was not bypassed. Weird you are not getting a confirmation chirp. where are you getting tach from?

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: September 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Maybe you could try posting your Year, Make and model and see if you could get some help! Always seems to work for me!

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Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: September 21, 2009 at 11:02 AM

car is 94 honda civic vti model.with 96 spec 1.8 type r engine obd2a.

Tach is connected to rpm blue wire cluster gauge connector.
When this wire is not connected, when g5* pressd car starts but it still cranks 4 longer,even when its started,then cuts out.
Once connectd,it start fine,crank time 100% accurate.

Would i need a rpm module #60-521.

Harward replied 2 my pm and said he wil remove all alarm and re.fit. Which means i will need 2 drive 2 harward in london i think and pay him 4 da job.
It might be cheaper 2 sost it out locally or myself from help on this forum.

Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: September 21, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: September 21, 2009 at 12:43 PM

No need to post twice ok! We saw it the first time! Also go with Howard's advice!

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Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: September 22, 2009 at 7:14 AM

sorry, dont know how the post ended but duplicating, as I was on my mobile internet.

just an update.

yesterday I programmed the Door locks, to lock upon RPM, and this works perfectly, as soon as the car starts, after 3 second , all the doors lock.

So I really dont know where the problem is.

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 22, 2009 at 10:19 AM

That simply tells us you programmed tach, but what's this got to do with the Blackjax and failure to R/S?

Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: September 24, 2009 at 5:24 AM

tried to have it looked at local alarm guys, but they refused as it wasnt fitted by them.

is their any one who could put me in the right direction.

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: September 24, 2009 at 10:54 AM

i-vtec wrote:

. is their any one who could put me in the right direction.

Yup! I mentioned him earlier on! Wanna take a wild guess!

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Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: September 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM

howard, I have had some communication on here with, i understand he makes a living.

so will leave him out for now,

Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: September 24, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Who installed the system? Has it ever worked right? Do you have an OEM security bypass?

What happens if you start the car with the key, remote start the vehicle, then pull the key out of the ignition?

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Kevin Pierson

Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: September 24, 2009 at 11:36 AM

KPierson wrote:

Who installed the system? Has it ever worked right? Do you have an OEM security bypass?

What happens if you start the car with the key, remote start the vehicle, then pull the key out of the ignition?

The system was removed from my previous car, and installed on my 1994 civic, by the same installer.

Their is no security bypass at all.

Car starts fine with the key.

I can start the car remotely but it cuts out out after 4-5 sec. for some reason the alarm cuts the power from IGN wire going to the car side.

I also have the IGNITION accessory feature on this, when I press G5G5 ** once , the IGN comes on for 255 sec, then cuts out, I can do this any time,

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 24, 2009 at 2:55 PM

Your alarm is a Clifford Concept 650 Mk ll with Intellistart. The alarm is supposed to cut the car side of the ignition, it has 2 imobilisers. Your last line, that's for a turbo timer, I mentioned that before questioning its value as your car doesn't normally have a turbocharger so that's the second time I've answered that one for you. Ignore it.

When you originally pm'd me you told me that you re-installed it. Now you are telling us someone else did it. Didn't it work when he re-installed it, if so why not? That's his problem before you pay him.

Kevin a 96 Civic UK spec is borderline for a transponder, all cars sold in Europe had to have them from 01/01/97, except for the Uk, 2 door hatches were made in Japan, 5 door hatches were UK, Estates were French and coupes were USA.

Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: September 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM

haward if im pain in da ass then sorry,no need you calling me a moran.
I am a newbi ,give us a chance.
Its a clifford concept 650 wiv intellistart.
No mark 2.

The system was removed from a turbocharged car.
Thats why i had a ignition accessory,another words turbo timer.
All workd find.
The guy who de.installd it and re.installd it,he didnt fit it neetly,it didnt work rite either.
So after downloading the manual i checkd all connection,fixd it neetly.

I figerd that the siren had some sort of fault,as it chirps 4, 2 days then no chirp.but once armd,disconnecting and reconnecting the siren plug cured this problem, 4 another couple of days.

I have now just 2 problems 2 resolve.

1.when startd remotley ,starts fine,but after 4 . 5 seconds it cuts off. Why?

2.anti hi.jax
Once disarmd key in ignition, drive of,as soon as i press the brake padle,after 20 second hi.jax kicks in.hazards flash,brake light flashes
enter code ,all ok.
I understand if code enterd b4 pressing the brake padle wil de.activate the anti hi.jax till next time when triggered.
But why doesnt the hi.jax work when driving.parkd at lights door opend.i.e if someone jacked the car.
As the door contact should trigger it again.
Because it workd fine in my old car.

Could it be a fault with the alarm unit.
How do i find out whats wrong

Again ive checked.
+ on 5amp and 30amp wire.
Intelistart plug harness
+ on red wire
- on black wire
GREEN/ black given - negitive 4 manual,connectd to above black wire.
Grey/black connected to rpm.
Rest are dead.cut off.

Hope that makes sence

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 24, 2009 at 5:00 PM

If I call you a Moron, at least I spelt it right, secondly my name is HOward. My site or posting name is Howie ll, that should have been a clue.

Without hearing what happens this 4 secs run is puzzling me. Is the engine cranking that length of time?

Re Blackjax. Turn on key then enter your Blackjax code. Yet again please read the instructions. If you don't have them, pm me with your personal email and I'll send them on to you. Have you checked that the BJ is programmed on?

Is your car a manual or auto? If manual, disconnect GREEN/ black from black and use manual safety mode, it wil save you a bundle on lawsuits.

GREEN/ blue on Intellistart, connect to reverse light feed if auto parking brake switch or warning light if manual.

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: September 24, 2009 at 5:04 PM

I was wondering when you patience would run short with him Haward! LOL! posted_image

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 24, 2009 at 5:06 PM

About two weeks ago Darren

Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: September 25, 2009 at 4:52 AM

Im not gona argue here HOWARD.

below are answers to your question, and see If you suspect anything wrong. thanks

Without hearing what happens this 4 secs run is puzzling me. Is the engine cranking that length of time?
[/QUOTE]Engine starts fine,crank time is set 100% perfect,.but then shuts itself off, after 4 - 5 sec,
example(picture this) start the engine with key,and then after 4-5 sec turn the IGN off, this is exactly what happens when remotely started .

Re Blackjax. Turn on key then enter your Blackjax code. Yet again please read the instructions. If you don't have them, pm me with your personal email and I'll send them on to you. Have you checked that the BJ is programmed on?
I have downloaded the instructions manual and installation.
BJ is on, as why would it ask for code, If not entered the first time. I know its not temp off, as the led would flash 10 times when IGN off. I've checked via manual programming, I got 2 chirps, as per page 32 installation manual.unless their is some other way to do this.

Is your car a manual or auto? If manual, disconnect GREEN/ black from black and use manual safety mode, it wil save you a bundle on lawsuits.
GREEN/ blue on Intellistart, connect to reverse light feed if auto parking brake switch or warning light if manual.

The car is a manual, So I will disconnect GREEN/ black.and connect blue/green to the handbrake wire,and I believe this is a + input.

Out of interest Why the Hell did the Motorguard installer connected GREEN/ Black to Ground, On a manual car,This is my previous car im taking about.

Thank you for your patients and help Howard.

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: September 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Grounding the GREEN/ black AT stand off wire on a manual. In fact on this site if you even ask how to do it, they can bar you. There are serious legal implications e.g. leaving car in gear facing downhill, the car will drive away.

As for this runs for 3-5 secs, all I can think of is to suggest turning off the blackjax.

Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: September 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM

thank you howard. Will try these methods and update the post.

Posted By: i-vtec
Date Posted: November 04, 2009 at 7:36 AM

Great news.

I have finally fixed this issue , which i have been having on my Clifford 650 alarm.

I simply tried to programme the RPM and bingo, all sorted.

Big thanks to Howard for his assistances.