2006 dodge ram 1500, viper 5901
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=119198
Printed Date: May 12, 2024 at 2:07 AM
Topic: 2006 dodge ram 1500, viper 5901
Posted By: rbeard1979
Subject: 2006 dodge ram 1500, viper 5901
Date Posted: January 09, 2010 at 1:25 PM
Hello ALL....I am new to this forum and cannot find the answer to this question. I have ordered a Viper 5901 and a XPRESSKIT DLPKCHG2 Bypass Module. Will I need anything else to get this alarm installed. I do have the keyless entry/sentry key. I am installing the alarm with my cousin wo used to install alarms, but has been out of it for a while. I just want to make sure I am not going to need any relays, diodes, etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I spoke with Best Buy and they told me this was the bypass they used, but would not help me any further. Thanks! PS...I do plan to install the remote start and alarm!
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Posted By: rbeard1979
Date Posted: January 09, 2010 at 5:07 PM
I was also told b Best Buy that I have to get power from the Batt. Is there not a 12V constant inside the truck? Anyone install on an 06 Ram before??
Posted By: ceasar326
Date Posted: January 09, 2010 at 6:26 PM
You need to get the power 12volt from battery and you will need 2 relays to power parking lights left and right.
Posted By: rbeard1979
Date Posted: January 09, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Does the Bypass module not control the parking lights since it controls the factory arm/disarm. I thought it might control the lights since the factory keyless is already tied into the lights?? Just curious!
Posted By: metz35
Date Posted: January 09, 2010 at 8:05 PM
there is much debate about getting power from the battery or from the ignition switch...i stand on the side that its ok to get power from the ignition aslong as you change the fuse in the remote start ... if the key can use a 2amp power so can my remote start, those wires in the ram i believe control relays , so getting power from the ignition switch imo is A-OK. and if you wanna use a relay and a resistor you can get negative parking lights at the switch..
Posted By: ceasar326
Date Posted: January 09, 2010 at 9:47 PM
Sure u can use the 12 volt power at the ignition but, it can couse problems down the road. Specially when the wire is 18gauge. And the parking lights are not controls by the bypass but if you have auto-lights then u should be ok.
Posted By: 05gt
Date Posted: January 09, 2010 at 10:11 PM
the idatalink module controls the parklights for lock and unlock, but not for remote start
Posted By: rbeard1979
Date Posted: January 10, 2010 at 8:08 AM
05...I guess i don't understand what you mean. I have the XPRESSKIT DLPKCHG2. So, it does control the parking lights? You said it doesn't on remote start? Don't understand what you mean by that.
Posted By: ceasar326
Date Posted: January 10, 2010 at 11:23 AM
The best way would be doing the install and testing it w/out the lights hooked-up, but having 2 relays just in case.
Posted By: yimke
Date Posted: January 10, 2010 at 8:41 PM
DO NOT GRAB IT FROM THE SWITCH! 2A is just a bad idea. Especially when you can grab it from inside the vehicle at a 40A wire! It is at a blue 4 pin connector in the kick and it is tan/red, or pin 4. Can't miss it right above the giant cluster of wires.
For the p-lights you can grab them at the switch i believe, which is WHITE/ green wire negative trigger through a 1300 ohm resistor. It's easier than finding the left and right + wires and diode isolating them.
Posted By: 05gt
Date Posted: January 10, 2010 at 9:07 PM
all I mean is that the bypass controls the factory alarm and disarm so when you go to lock and unlock the car it will flash the lights, the remote start is seperate from the factory alarm so it will not flash the lights upon remote start
Posted By: rbeard1979
Date Posted: January 11, 2010 at 2:43 PM
Ok...I understand. That is what I thought, just didn't read it that way in your post. Thanks for the help!!
Posted By: rbeard1979
Date Posted: February 20, 2010 at 9:26 PM
Hello all....I would like some help if you can. I have a Viper 5901 and Xpresskit DLPKCHG2 bypass module. The alarm is working, and the bypass module is working right as far as I can tell. It is controlling the factory locks,dome light, parking lights, and factory alarm. The problem is the rs of the system. It will not work. I cannot get a straight answer a to where the pink + start imput wires goes. This is how it is listed in the manual: "Start Output - Connection is parallel to the vehicle and remote control system starter wires." It says the connection is to the alarm. I cannot figure out where this goes. I have tried every ignition wire hooked up to the truck, and no luck. Here is how the rs harness is wired as of now. Heavy gauge remote start, (H3) 10-pin connector
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT - ignition wire in truck
H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87 - 12 V constant
H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT - Not needed because of bypass
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) - cut starter wire on car side H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE) - cut starter wire on ignition side
H3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT - 12 V constant
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT - 2nd + ignition wire
H3/8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX Relay - Not Used
H3/9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT - 12 V Constant When the truck tries to start, it sounds like the battery is dead. All the ACC starts up, then it tries to start making dead battery sound, then it gives me an error message after 3 tries of this. I am at a loss. Please help me!! Thanks in advance!!
Posted By: kickergod
Date Posted: February 21, 2010 at 5:32 PM
Connect pink + start at the remote start start wire if your reffering to the bypass wires. Also make sure the pull down resistor wire (on bypass) isn't grounded since it has a + start in the vehicle. I know this is going to sound like a stupid question, but did you put the key ring around the ignition cylinder and program the key portion of the bypass? if you want to make sure everything else is correct, unplug the key wrap from the bypass so it does not see that part and remote start while holding the key next to the cylinder. if it fires up, you didn't get the bypass programme. If it still doesn't work, you have something else wrong go back and check all of your connections. If that +start isn't hooked up from the bypass it is not sending a 2nd start output to the vehicle.
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Ryan Edwards
MECP Certified Installer
Posted By: rbeard1979
Date Posted: February 21, 2010 at 8:17 PM
kickergod wrote:
Connect pink + start at the remote start start wire if your reffering to the bypass wires. Also make sure the pull down resistor wire (on bypass) isn't grounded since it has a + start in the vehicle. I know this is going to sound like a stupid question, but did you put the key ring around the ignition cylinder and program the key portion of the bypass? if you want to make sure everything else is correct, unplug the key wrap from the bypass so it does not see that part and remote start while holding the key next to the cylinder. if it fires up, you didn't get the bypass programme. If it still doesn't work, you have something else wrong go back and check all of your connections. If that +start isn't hooked up from the bypass it is not sending a 2nd start output to the vehicle.
I have the pink wire from the bypass hooked upto the starter wire. I talked with a tech today and he helped me with some connections. Only proble is it is still not working. Referring to the pull down resistor wire on the bypass, where should it be connected. I currently have it a starter output wire on the viper. I think it is on a - starter output? Would that be correct? If not, then where do I move it? Thanks for your help!!
Posted By: rbeard1979
Date Posted: February 21, 2010 at 8:52 PM
I did make sure the bypass is programmed. We couldn't get it to program right at first, and we had to open a key and the bypass module up per the instructions. We finally got it working right. Just to make sure, I went out and too the guts out of the keyand the bypass module. Put the key in the ignition without the guts and put the bypass module guts up to the ignition cylinder and she fired right up and kept running. So I know the module is programmed and that is not the problem. If you could please give me a run down of where every wire on the rs should be connected. No one will just tell me all the connections so I know if they are right or not. Thanks for any help!!
Posted By: yimke
Date Posted: February 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM
Connect the Mux wire AT the switch. This reduces your chances of grabbing the wrong wire. Sometimes it switches colors. I usually grab it by pin location.
Posted By: rbeard1979
Date Posted: February 22, 2010 at 4:30 PM
Thanks for the help guys...finally got it to work!! Started it 6 times in a row just to make sure....I had the MUX wire connected on the wrong side of the switch, so thanks to the poster about the MUX wire! Moved it and it fired up right away!!! SO thankful t get it working and not pay someone to fix it!!
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