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Topic: astrostart/flex 4200 4204

Posted By: ultimateshrub
Subject: astrostart/flex 4200 4204
Date Posted: February 07, 2010 at 5:01 AM

I am looking for an installation manual for an AstroStart 4200 series remote starter. The model # on the unit itself is 4200 but the 'User Guide' that I have indicates that it is a '4204'. I am installing it in a 2000 F250 Diesel and need to know how to set the dip switches. I am also trying to determine how to connect the door locks. Both the 'Lock'(pink/lt.green) and 'Unlock'(pink / YELLOW) wires have a +12 volts when the button is pressed and so I have +12 Volts connected to the '30' terminal on my relays but when the relay activates, the fuse blows immediately as if there is a dead short.
Thanks in advance.
Brad



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Posted By: monty_77
Date Posted: February 08, 2010 at 12:02 AM
that truck is a reverse polarity lock (5 wire)

that unit should have the relays for doorlock built in it connector P3

hook the 87 to positive of both lock and unlock should be the blue/white and BROWN / white

you will have to cut the lock and unlock wire

hook the 87a WHITE/ brown of the lock to the switch side of the pink/lt.green and the 30 brown wire of the lock to the motor side of the pink/lt.green

hook the 87a WHITE/ blue of the unlock to the switch side of the pink / YELLOW and the 30 blue wire of the lock to the motor side of the pink / YELLOW

check your private message




Posted By: ultimateshrub
Date Posted: February 08, 2010 at 8:52 AM
Thanks Monty
Where do I find these wires to cut them? I have located them up under the dash above the steering column but there won't be a motor/switch side as I believe these are the feed wires coming from the fuse panel. How do I determine which is switch side and which is motor side? Do I need to access the actuator inside the door itself?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Brad




Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: February 08, 2010 at 9:05 AM
Audiovox says high in the driver side dash, you might be able to also get them where they come through from the doors.

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Posted By: segal79_19
Date Posted: February 08, 2010 at 5:14 PM
there r a couple of places to get them. i prefer to get them in the door boot always seemed easiest to me. or u can pop off the cover on top of the dash on the passenger side and get them there same colors just always seemed like more work than needed to me. no that u have tested wires to confirm they r correct cut both wires in half. the side to the switch should show ground and 12v when pressing the switch. from the astro brain u have blue/white, WHITE/ blue, and blue for unlock wires. blue/white goes to 12v,WHITE/ blue goes to switch and blue goes to truck side. follow the same for the brown(lock) side and your done.

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Marks Auto Mart Sound and Accessories
2100 5th Ave. South
Fort Dodge Iowa 50501




Posted By: segal79_19
Date Posted: February 08, 2010 at 5:16 PM
i beleave the 4204 denotes that it is a 2way confirming system

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Marks Auto Mart Sound and Accessories
2100 5th Ave. South
Fort Dodge Iowa 50501




Posted By: monty_77
Date Posted: February 08, 2010 at 8:26 PM
you can get them in the passengers kick panel

easiest way is to test them after cutting the switch side will show positive when pressed.

and yes it is a 2-way





Posted By: ultimateshrub
Date Posted: February 10, 2010 at 3:02 PM
Thanks everyone above for all of your help. I would not have had much luck without your input......
I do have a problem though and that is that about every 5th or 6th start, the starter won't disengage. I have checked all of the connections (especially the tach wire) and they don't apprear to be loose. Any advice you guys can offer would be appreciated.
Brad




Posted By: monty_77
Date Posted: February 10, 2010 at 3:37 PM
that is strange for an astrostart

try reprogramming the tach and let the vehicle run for a few minutes so it warmed up.


use the auto learn tach 1 5 6 7 up
then start vehicle
run for a min or two
then push the brake

only takes about 4 seconds

after programing move all dip switches down

maybe that will take care of that

if that does not work then
reset the rpm for a lower one





Posted By: ultimateshrub
Date Posted: February 10, 2010 at 3:47 PM
Thanks monty_77. I will give that a shot tonight and let you know what happens.




Posted By: ultimateshrub
Date Posted: February 10, 2010 at 8:58 PM
The tach learn option didn't seem to work so I reprogrammed the tach function to 8 cylinders and 600 RPM from 800 RPM and it seems to be working so far. I ran into another problem and that is the heater/air conditioner will not run on accessory. I have the yellow wire from harness P4 connected to the BLACK/ lt green wire at the Ign. Harness but the heater motor doesn't run. I am getting +12 Volts on the BLACK/ lt green wire when the key is placed in the accessory position as well as ignition position. The install manual says that some vehicles require 2 or more wires (+12 Volts)to turn on the heater/air cond. motor and that additional relays must be added. They reference Programmable outputs P2-13 to P2-16. The problem is I dont know which additional wire(s) I need to connect to under the dash from this relay. Does anyone know the answer? The vehicle is a 2000 F250 Diesel.
Thanks
Brad




Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: February 10, 2010 at 11:41 PM
Ignition 1     RED / BLACK OR RED / GRN     (+)          IGN SWITCH HARNESS          
     Ignition 2     GRAY / YELLOW          (+)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS          
     Ignition 3     DARK RED / BLACk     (+)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS          
     Accessory 1 BLACK/ LIGHT GREEN OR GRY/YEL(+)     IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS           
     Starter 1     RED / LIGHT BLUE          (+)     IGNITION SWITCH

You can test to make sure its the IGN 3 your missing by testing the polarity of the wire to make sure its + or - then testing it by jumping it to pos or neg if its the right wire your blower motor should turn on. I am almost positive this is whats missing, that is unless you have it connected. Then look for another accessory wire by probing until you find one that is + during run and off during ACC and start.

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Posted By: monty_77
Date Posted: February 13, 2010 at 10:44 PM
This is the wiring colors from astrostart

Ford F-250 350 Super Duty 2000
WIRE          COLOR        LOCATION    POL.
Battery 1     Yellow   Ignition Harness Positive
Battery 2    Lt. GREEN/ Purple        Ignition Harness Positive
Ignition 1   Blue/Green Or RED / Black Ignition Harness Positive
Starter 1    RED / Blue Ignition Harness Positive
Accessory 1 Gray / YELLOW             Ignition Harness Positive
Accessory 2 RED / BlackIgnition Harness Positive
Parklights   Brown       Parking Light Switch Harness Positive
Brake Lights Green    Brake Switch Positive
Horn        Blue     Steering Column Negative
Glowplug     BLACK/ Pink              Behind Instrument Cluster Negative
Tach        WHITE/ Pink              At Alternator
Lock        Pink / YELLOW             Passenger Kick Panel Reverse
Unlock       Pink/Green              Passenger Kick Panel Reverse
E-Brake      Lt GREEN/ Red            Parking Brake Switch Negative
Clutch       Dk Blue/Orange          Clutch Switch Positive
Dome Sensor BLACK/ Blue              Driver's Kick Panel Positive
KeySense     BLACK/ Pink              Ignition Harness Negative


just remember that you will have to add relays for using the p2-13 p2-16 outputs they are low negative output meant to run a relay not a circuit

There is also the programable relay that is built into all astrostarts you can use





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