prestige aps-787n, 07 hyundai sonata

Hi installing a Prestige aps-787n into a 07 hyundai Sonata 2.4L

1. Is the relays necessary for the parking lights, i read you need two relays to tie both sides together why couldnt it be done with just the wires from the Hazard light switch wich already ties both sides of the cars lights?

2. Door lock and unlock Is there any needed and whats type-B as read on the diagram of car for install.

3. Starter inhibit this would be i guess same as anti-grind correct me?

4. And entry illumination is also known as domelight supervision.

So thats 5 relays i counted.

Thanks

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

Top of my head the light feed through two x 1N5404 diodes will do the lights, that's how they do it for Europe. So no relays there.            Type B usually refers to low current neg switching, apart from some Nissans, never known an Oriental car to be anything else, so no relays there.
Starter inhibit = anti grind, if built in, then...no relays there.
Most better alarm/RS have built in domelight supervision, check your wiring info, also some cars bring on the dome lights when the doors are unlocked, e.g. Toyota, BMW, Honda, etc. Again check if your vehicle has this facility and if so yes you've guessed it, no relays required.
I make that probably one spend the money you saved on researching what you're trying to do. Or a good DMM.

I seen other systems with onboard relays more money i just wanted to stay in the range of 100$ i had a viper on a old car work good but needed a bit writer to do something on it wich i dont have or wont buy one. I was going to get Avital 5103 but i seen its from dei and i dont know if i need the bit writer for it as well. Galaxy looks good on paper but many say very cheap. I was looking at ultrastart but dont find to much info on it. Any sugestions? Be for i order the week everthing i need.

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

1. Is the relays necessary for the parking lights, i read you need two relays to tie both sides together why couldnt it be done with just the wires from the Hazard light switch wich already ties both sides of the cars lights?

Usually the parking lights are hooked up on this vehicle.  The Parking light wire is active with ground, and can be found at the steering column light switch, no relay neeed. 

If you want to hook up the hazards,  there is a brown wire on the side 24 pn connector of the BCM, pin 9 (2 other connectors are located at the front of the BCM).  This is also activeated with ground, and does not need a relay.

2. Door lock and unlock Is there any needed and whats type-B as read on the diagram of car for install.

Door locks do not need a relay.   2 diodes are used for each signal;  Lock:  band side twisted together and connected to the Remote start lock.  One of the diodes is connected to the car's power lock switch signal, the other is connected to the arm signal (tests as ground when the key cylinder is turned to lock the car).   Unlock:  band side twisted together and connected to the Remote start unlock.  One of the diodes is connected to the car's position sense signal (brown wire in th same connector as the orange disarm signal), the other is connected to the disarm signal (tests as ground when the key cylinder is turned to unlock the car).  The unit should be configured for double pulse unlock.

3. Starter inhibit this would be i guess same as anti-grind correct me?

Yes, same relay used in the installation.  I generally connect both the Ground when armed and Ignition 3 together with 2 diodes (band to  remote start signals, unbanded sides twisted together to the relay orange control lead). 

4. And entry illumination is also known as domelight supervision.

Relay is need for this. Pin 85 to +12V, Pin 86 to the remote start dome control output, Pin 30 to ground, pin 87 to the dome light relay in the Driver's Kick Panel.

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Lectric Guy

Sorry...Quick trigger finger.  Should have said:

4. And entry illumination is also known as domelight supervision.

Relay is need for this. Pin 85 to +12V, Pin 86 to the remote start dome control output, Pin 30 to ground, pin 87 to the dome light signal in the Driver's Kick Panel ( this is a Yellow/Black wire  in the red plug--Ther are 2 yellow/black wires in this plug; the other is for the power unlock switch).

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Lectric Guy

So does the system come with the diodes or i need to get it and what type of diodes on the install it manual theres 3 wires 1. RED / black neg. 2nd unlock   2. green pos lock, neg. unlock   3. red neg, lock,  pos unlock

Also doenst say where to conect the trunk in i know where on the bcm but where on this system.

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

Type B locks require a negative pulse to activate.  Green will be unlock and Red will be lock for this application.  RED / black is not used.

Diodes can be general purpos 1N4001, 1N 4003, etc.  These are generally available in Radio Shack, or online at most electronics parts suppliers.

Blue wire on the APS787 will also be called channel 3 output.  This signal activates when you press the key/trunk button for 3 seconds.  Many people find this wait annoying, and installers can hook up another channel

(i.e., ch5 blue/green to the trunk signal.  The only reason to do this is to get  a quicker response when you want to open the trunk.  Channels above ch4 are not set initially on the remotes. 

You will need to program the remotes for Ch 5,6, and 7 if you desire to use them.   Typically, channel 4 is used for defrost, but the Sonata only requires a negative pulse to activate defrost, and if you want to hook defrost up, any channel may be used.

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Lectric Guy

I dont mind the 3sec thing thats how i started my old viper alarm. On my paper that says (output dark blue (-) to channel 3 control relay). is that correct , and is there a diode need here? Or any where else that you could think off, whats the wire/color location for the defrost on the car. 

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

You have the correct wire, no diode needed.

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Lectric Guy

Thanks !! made me understand it much better then what iv read Thanks

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

If your looking for an easy install the Avital 5103 would be a great unit. you wouldnt need any relays or diodes for an 07 Sonata. The 5103 has a built-in starter kill/anti-grind. You can also use negative parking lights, its pink at the switch. You also dont NEED a bitwriter for any DEI products. you can program everything from the valet switch. The bitwriter just makes it easy for dealers or avid installers who do a few cars a day/week to program faster. Hope this helps

I was looking into that system as well. But for some reason comparing both intall guides the 787n seems much simpler.

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

Which Diode should i get Radioshack only have 1n4001 , 1n4003, 1n4004.

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

any of those will work.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Ok so the Guide says install a relay for channel 3 or even ch5  to open the trunk is this necessary for my car?

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

Depends on what that output is normally it's a 1-400 milliamp neg and also depends on what's coming from your switch. Only you can tell us these things.

If I recall off the top of my head it is + parklights brown with orange stripe and - trunk dark blue both to left of steering column so no relays unless the unit only has - output for parklight in which case get it at the switch so you don't need a relay. If you use negative lights the lights won't flash if your light switch is set on auto lights. Make sure you turn it off if you want park light flashes.

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Ryan Edwards
MECP Certified Installer

Thanks on the info of the Auto lights didnt know that i always run them on auto. I could select + or - for the lights on the unit.  Is there a wire near the light switch thats + that ties both side of the car lights? because according to the cars wire diagrams  two relays needed to tie both sides of the car lights.

BROWN / black left side and GREEN/ black side right founded at the drivers kick panel harness to rear of car.

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

Had a question i plan installing a aps787n. next week. my cars factory alarm Or Keyless entry what ever it is locks the car on its own after a min i guess, wouldnt this enter-fear whith the new systm once install.

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

It should not relock on its own.   When the keyless is used on an 07 Sonata, the BCM receives an RF signal from the key fob to lock or unlock the doors; if unlock is received, and no doors are opened,  the system rearms and relocks after 30 seconds. 

When you wire the APS 787, You would use the unlock/disarm signal that is generated when the door is unlocked using the door key cylinder (factory disarm/unlock, orange wire in the drivers kick panel, also the brown position sense wire same DKP area, common connection for the banded end of 2 diodes to the green unlock signal of the APS 787, one diode to the orange unlock/disarm, one to the position sense).   This does not relock the vehicle.  

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Lectric Guy

Where are you getting wiring colors info from, the one i got are from bulldogsec. and says pink/black for lock and yellow/black for unlock,  factory alarm disarm Orange and doesnt say anything else.

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

So put diode on orange and on brown  to meet up at the green from the unit.

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

The Pink/black and Yellow/black wires are the wires from the power door lock switch.  The unlock does not operate when the vehicle is armed.   If you look at factory disarm from most sources, you will see orange listed.  This is the signal from the driver's door key cylinder.  A double pulse will both disarm and unlock the doors.   You have the diodes correct. 

Both Brown and Orange wires are found in the gray 24Pin connector in the driver's kick (pins 1 & 3).

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Lectric Guy

I ordered a 25 pack of 1n4003 for 4 $   radio shack only had two . I get what your saying now  i just didnt see where brown was coming from since its not in the diagram. Thanks

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

I started to run the wires but i noticed i have a hood swicth and a trunk swicth does anyone know if its in the kick panel and what colors or plug if so should i look for Thanks Or should i just run the pin?

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

OEM Hood Pin:GREEN (-) At Switch Or 24 Pin WHITE Conn at BCM Pin #24 or driver kick

trunk pin GREEN/ BLACK (-) 24 PIN PLUG AT BCM-PIN 23 * ** or driver kick

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Snakeiz-

  Not to confuse you, but the data I reference is from Hyundai's Service Database for a 2007 2.4L Sonata.   Always test your wires first before making any connections.   I would connect both of these signals through a diode as indicated:

  Hood Pin:  Passenger's Kick Panel, the (Lowest) Gray 39 Pin Plug, Pin 30, Green Wire.  Can also be found at the BCM,  Connector A (Leftmost connector, Pin 24, Green Wire.  Diode cathode (Band) toward hood pin.

 Trunk Pin:  Driver's Kick Panel, the (Lowest)  18 Pin Brown Connector, Pin 2.  This will have 2 GREEN/ black wires.   Also can be found on BCM Connector A, Pin 23, GREEN/ Black Wire.  Diode cathode (Band) toward Trunk pin.

 

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Lectric Guy

Thanks, i had started yesturday i got all the ING, wiring done and the door locks and trunk with the diodes , Is there any diodes needed for the parking lights? The arm and disarm wiring am leaving for last do to some say its not needed because it disarms it at the ING.. Also i seen your older post on where to find the tach wire Thanks

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

No diodes needed for Parking lights (Negative at light switch).  Tach is in the Blue 33Pin connector in the Drivers Kick, Pin 28, White Wire.

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Lectric Guy

You don't need even a single diode for this car. Not one. This is way less complicated than it seems.

The "two parking light wires" is a bunch of BS that the people who make the crappy tech sheets put out. It's because they're too lazy to differentiate U.S. and Canadian/export models.

The car also has individual wires for lock, unlock, factory alarm arm, and factory alarm disarm. The Prestige unit has the appropriate outputs to connect to these.

Anyway........first of all, you do have a meter or at least a test light and know how to use it, correct? You shouldn't make any connection to anything in the car without testing.

OK here we go:

PARKING LIGHTS: I get them positive trigger at the dimmer switch on the dash. They're either blue or orange, I forget. That one wire will light up the whole car. (You could also choose to use the negative-trigger wire coming down the steering column, if you prefer.)

LOCK: Pink/black in driver kick panel. Tests as ground when locking the doors using the switch on the door panel. Connect Audiovox red here.

UNLOCK: Yellow/black in driver kick panel. Tests as ground when locking the doors using the switch on the door panel. Connect Audiovox green here.

ARM: Yellow in driver kick panel. Tests as ground when turning the key to the lock position in the outside of the driver's door. Connect Audiovox BLACK/ green "pulse after start" here. (The BLACK/ green also pulses when you arm the Audiovox unit, and therefore arms the factory alarm.)

DISARM: Orange in driver kick panel. Tests as ground when turning the key to the unlock position in the outside of the driver's door. Connect Audiovox BLACK/ blue "pulse beforer start" here. (The BLACK/ blue also pulses when you disarm the Audiovox unit, and therefore disarms the factory alarm.)

--------LOCKS, DONE, NO DIODES OR MESSING AROUND0---------


Other wires you asked for:

     Hood Trigger          GREEN          (-)          AT BCM MODULE BEHIND CENTER CONSOLE UNDER A/C CONTROLS
(connect Audiovox gray/black here)

Trunk Trigger          GREEN/ BLACK          (-)          IN HARNESS IN DRIVERS KICKPANEL
(Connect Audiovox dark green here)

I got a craftman Meter. Iv lable tag every wire i need to solder to, so far iv tested and solderd The ING. wires , doors, trunk yesturday , today i will proceed with the rest  Thanks

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

So all done except for one wire the door trigger wire can this wire be found in the drivers kick panel or do i have to get it from the bcm, i i tested a few wires but couldnt find one but i got to dark to keep looking. i tested the system so far all good it remote start just on the 2nd try the first time but then after that okay tryed this morning started just fine. final step tuck everthing away. 

         I like to Thanks Everyone that took there time in responding to my Questions Thanks 

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L

For those 2007 Sonata and Compatible Years and Make Helptful tips: 1. If looking for the tach wire in the kick panel as help from others to the loctaion as claimed even on the Hyundai service online blue plug number 28 pin. But Mines wasnt, had No blue plug it was a gray upest last to firewall and says kit 2 on it White wire 28pin.

2. I didnt need to get to the BCM all wiring was under the steering colum and drivers kick panel and i couldnt find any wire for the door trigger in the kick panel so i ran a wire to the door swicth.

3. Factory Hood and Trunk switch i found the wires but the wouldnt give out no signal so i had to put a switch under the hood.

4. To run wires under the hood i followed the cable for the hood release.

5. Diodes Humm i had put some for the locks and trunk at first for safety in guess it would lock but it wouldnt unlock and the trunk wouldnt open. funny thing is if i had pressed door unlock and then trunk it would unlock doors and trunk  at once  so i removed the diode on the trunk and tested it and it worked fine so i removed all the diodes everthing is all Good Now First time install for myself Just saved me About 300 $, Total hours on work about 8hrs and 2 12 packs of Heineken  .  Thanks

Credits : lectricguy and Chris Luongo  (Thanks)

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2007 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L