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viper 5701 in 2006 trailblazer ss

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: viper 5701 in 2006 trailblazer ss

Posted By: onebadss
Subject: viper 5701 in 2006 trailblazer ss
Date Posted: March 26, 2010 at 9:34 PM

I'm in the process of installing a Viper 5701 in my '06 Trailblazer SS, and have run into an issue I'm sure I've caused somewhere along the line. I cannot perform a normal start of the vehicle with the key. All alarm actions function properly, as does the remote start and shutdown processes.

I am using the Idatalink ADS-DLSL GM bypass module in W2W. Since this seems to be R/S related, here are my connections for the H3, R/S In, R/S Out, and bypass harnesses. Does anyone see what I did wrong? I can post up the remainder of the connections if need be.

o H3/1 Pink (+) Ignition 1 Pink to IGN C6 & Bypass Pink
o H3/2 RED / Wh (+) Ignition 2 to IGN D2 RED / Wh
o H3/3 Orange (+) Accessory to IGN D1 Orange & relay pin 85
o H3/4 Violet (+) Starter Out to IGN Yellow C1 Harness Side
o H3/5 Green (+) Starter In to IGN Yellow C1 Key Side
o H3/6 Red (+) Ignition 1 In to IGN B5 Red
o H3/7 Pink/Wh (+) Ignition 2 Out to IGN C5 White
o H3/8 Pink/Blk (+) Flex Relay In N/A
o H3/9 RED / Blk (+) Accessory In to IGN B5 Red

o Relay for second accessory:
* Pin 85 – from H3/3 & IGN D1 Orange
* Pin 86 – Ground
* Pin 87 – IGN ACC2 B6 Brown
* Pin 30 – 12V Constant from IGN B5 Red

o R/S In
* 1 BLACK/ Wh Neutral Safety Switch to Common Ground
* 2 Violet/Wh Tach Input to Wh at Vehicle Cluster
* 3 Brown (+) Brake Shutdown to Wh at Brake Switch
* 4 Gray Hood Pin Shutdown to Hood Pin
* 5 Blue/Wh (-) Defrost Output to N/A

o R/S Out
* 1 Pink/Wh (-) Flex Relay Output to N/A
* 2 Orange (-) Accessory Output to N/A
* 3 Violet (-) Starter Output to N/A
* 4 Pink (-) Ignition 1 Output to N/A
* 5 Blue (-) Status Output to Bypass Blue/Wh

o ADS-DLSL GM Bypass
* 1/1 Blue/Wh Ground When Running to 5701 Blue
* 1/2 Black Ground to Common Ground
* 1/3 Red 12V to IGN B5

* 2/1 GREEN/ Black Lock/Arm to 5701 D/L Green
* 2/2 Blue/Black Unlock/Disarm to 5701 D/L Blue
* 2/3 RED / Wh Trunk Input to N/A
* 2/4 Brown Disarm to N/A
* 2/5 Purple / YELLOW Left Sliding Door to N/A
* 2/6 PURPLE / Black Right Sliding Door to N/A
* 2/7 White N/A
* 2/8 BLACK/ Wh N/A
* 2/9 Green Door Status to N/A (used diode-isolated lines direct to 5701)
* 2/10 PURPLE / Wh Tach Output to N/A (not available for V8 vehicles)

* 3/1 Pink (+) Ignition Input IGN Pink C6
* 3/2 Pink/Black to N/A
* 3/3 Orange Data to Purple at OBDII Plug
* 3/4 ORANGE / Wh N/A
* 3/5 ORANGE / Black N/A
* 3/6 BROWN / Yellow N/A
* 3/7 BROWN / Red N/A

Thank you in advance!



Replies:

Posted By: awdeclipse
Date Posted: March 26, 2010 at 10:33 PM
Starter Wires are backward is my thoughts.

You get ignition but no crank I am guessing?




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: March 27, 2010 at 6:20 AM
if you cant start with they key, check for any loose wires at the ignition cylinder.

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Posted By: onebadss
Date Posted: March 27, 2010 at 8:36 AM
awdeclipse wrote:

Starter Wires are backward is my thoughts.

You get ignition but no crank I am guessing?


Exactly, I will try this today and post the results. Thanks!




Posted By: onebadss
Date Posted: March 27, 2010 at 8:37 AM
tedmond wrote:

if you cant start with they key, check for any loose wires at the ignition cylinder.


I checked all connections, and they appear secure. I also disconnected the H3 harness altogether and jumped the two starter pins (in essence returning to a normal state), and the key worked flawlessly.




Posted By: onebadss
Date Posted: March 27, 2010 at 3:07 PM
It was a ground issue, ironically. I checked all wires at the common ground and one was loose from all the fiddling I've been doing I guess, causing the key start to fail.

So, now the key start works fine as does remote start with the car in an unarmed state. When the car is armed, however, I keep tripping the factory alarm which in turns triggers the Viper. The bypass is flashing green during R/S, so according to the manual it is programmed correctly. I'm using D/L1 & D/L3 into the bypass to control locks...could that be my problem? Should I change those to H2/1 and H2/2 to try to control the factory alarm at R/S?





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