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2010 chevy camaro upgrade

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=122014
Printed Date: May 21, 2024 at 4:39 PM


Topic: 2010 chevy camaro upgrade

Posted By: fredt26
Subject: 2010 chevy camaro upgrade
Date Posted: May 26, 2010 at 3:08 PM

I was installing an upgrade system into a 2010 camaro. I had trouble with the lock and unlock systems. Someone told me you have to add relays and diodes for any brand upgrade. CAN ANYONE HELP, i dont want to go but a module every time i have to install one.



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Posted By: 91stt
Date Posted: May 26, 2010 at 5:08 PM
What system are you installing?




Posted By: fredt26
Date Posted: May 26, 2010 at 5:16 PM
I am installing a PURSUIT PRO9233N....a  buddy if mine has the same trouble with an AutoMate UPGRADE




Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: May 27, 2010 at 6:31 AM

Fred, i have the solution for you. I went thru this same problem and Avox came up with this...

https://documents.audiovox.com/710819.pdf

This problem also occurs with the new Equinox....



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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: May 29, 2010 at 7:52 AM
Just use a iDatalink or Fotin module to control the OEM secuity and door locks. Way less troubles and controlled via data. Is there a reason why you don't want to use a module ?

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: June 02, 2010 at 6:37 AM
A module won't give you motor legs to control an alarm upgrade. My dealers want to use the factory remote for control because it's built into the keyhead and a remote-less key is unavailable. The legs rest at 7 volts and if you connect even a diode to the leg wires they stop working....

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: June 16, 2010 at 4:19 PM
about time they made that a tech document. I called them about it a long time ago and they said "call us back when you figure it out"


I have several of them prepped on the bench, it works like a charm. Now if only they could make it into a box, those relays take up a lot of room under the dash.




Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: June 17, 2010 at 9:17 PM
And there's zero room under the dash in the Camaro too...

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: June 17, 2010 at 9:54 PM
room is not the issue. The real issue is keeping the components out of the way of techs. If the car goes in for service those animals tend to yank and pull on anything they see not factory. This can create issues




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: June 17, 2010 at 10:10 PM

it is possible to do door locks without a module.  It is not easy but can be done.  I have done many trucks and suburbans but never a car.  On the trucks you have to remove the circuit board from the drivers door.  Find the 3 contact pads under the lock and unlock switches.  One is common and there is a lock and unlock pad.  Follow the traces to a spot that is open enough to solder a small wire to the trace.  On the trucks I follow them all the way to the chip that is soldered to the back side of the circuit board.  Solder a small wire to each of the 3 spots, common, lock and unlock.  Route the 3 small wires out of the housing that holds the circuit board and all the switches.  Wire the relays as follows, the common wire to terminal 30 of both relays.  Connect the lock wire to 87 of one relay, and the unlock wire to 87 of the other relay.  Power to terminal 86 of both relays.  Alarm lock output to 85 of the relay to which you have the lock wire connected to 87.  Alarm unlock to 85 of the other relay.

An IDE hard drive cable is what I am thinking when I say a small wire.  This wire is not really durable enough to run through the boot.  I run the small wire out of the control panel and connect it to primary wire that you can run through the boot and to the relays.





Posted By: misterjimbo
Date Posted: June 21, 2010 at 1:44 PM
i am an idiot wrote:

it is possible to do door locks without a module.  It is not easy but can be done.  I have done many trucks and suburbans but never a car.  On the trucks you have to remove the circuit board from the drivers door.  Find the 3 contact pads under the lock and unlock switches. 




He is talking about an add on to the factory keyless entry so this info is not valid. The camaro has negative triggers for the switches anyways, no need for soldering to the board

The issue he is referencing is that the actuators rest at 7 volts adn the alarm cannot differentiate between the 7 volts at rest and the 12 volt on the lock unlock commands





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