99 alero avital 4113

I will be installing an avital 4113 in our 99 Alero soon. I have a question on the 4 pin satellite harnes. The instructions seem to be very vague. As far as I can tell I don't think I need to hook any of these up? Any ideas? Thanks

blue - status output

orange - accessory output

purple - starter output

pink  - starter output

The car has no alarm and I'm only hooking up the remote start nothing else.

Think that has Passlock2?  You'll use the Blue wire for your status (GWR) input on the antitheft interface.

the Pink/White wire on the 4113 could be programmed for either a second igniton or second accessory.

  If you need 2 ignitons, and 2 accessories for the wiring on that vehicle, you'll want to use either the Pink, or Orange wire on that small harness to trigger a relay for the additional circuit

It does have the passlock and I am using a module from express kit to bypass it. I will be using the d2d connection so I'm hoping I don't have to use those wires. Am I right? :)

There ARE 2 ignitions, and 2 accessorys circuits on that vehicle,

And like I said... that RS has an extra Ignition output, but you'll want to add a second accessory relay, using that Org wire on that small harness.   Some people dont power all the circuits,  but I'd advise you to, to avoid problems.

And it has PASSLock 2.

This 4113 does have a second igniton and a second accessory that I will be hooking up from the unit, these wires are all rated at 30 amps.  The four wires that I am describing in this post are only maybe 18 gague or smaller. I think I will just hook everything up and see how it goes. It just seems odd that the manual doesn't give much info on these 4 wires but a good description on everything else.

That module has a Pink ig1, Pink/Whi Ig2, and an Orange for accessory, you need ANOTHER accessory, and you use the Orange wire on that small harness to trigger that additional relay as a second accessory.

Timo, listen to Mark he's done millions of them. Don't think that people like us are being funny or telling you too much detail, I never see any Chevys over here(well maybe the Holden/Vauxhall/Pontiac and the new Saab/Vauxhall Insignia/Buick Regal) but even I know that if you don't connect ALL of those you will get warning light problems, also pros generally don't use D2D, we go the W2W route, it's more reliable.
Remember what Mark says, the devil's in the detail.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Any suggestions on a good relay to use for that second accessory?

A decent quality 5 pin relay with a socket.       Pop the Orange wire out.  Red and Yellow to one of the reds on the module.  The black to the Orange from that small harness, and then run the Brown along with the other ignition harness wires from the module.  There ya go, now you got a second accessory.

What interface are you using?  You can connect them at that ignition harness wiring right there instead of D2D (which gives people problems sometimes).  You dont need many connections at the module for PASSLock2.

Radio Shack 275-001.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Thanks, I should be able to make the relay work. I was confused about the second accessory because the online manual shows it in two different charts so I assumed it already had the second accessory available. I will grab a relay today and make sure I'm clear on the wiring. Thanks !

I am using a dlpkgm to bypass the passlock. The only function it provides is to satisfy the passlock, I won't be using it for door locks etc. It has the firmware update and if I use the D2D there are only two other connections to hook up.

I only ever used one of those.  The plugs have no locks on them.  I think thats lame.

I would have chose something else but at the time I hadn't done my research like I should have.

A "PLJX"   it's cheap and easy to wire up.  And I never had a problem with one of them.

One more question. The NSS wire? Do I need to hook that up to the nss switch or can I run it to ground off the toggle switch? Thanks

If your NSS wire only goes to ground when vehicle is in neutral that's fine.
You can then set your unit up as an auto, it gives you much more flexibility when using the R/S.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

I didn't ask my question very well. The neutral safety input wire goes to the toggle switch but does the other wire coming off the toggle switch need to go to a park/neural switch or can it goto ground. The install manual is showing two different ways and I'm not sure which way to go. Thanks

Parking brake switch OR ground.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

One more problem to check out. I started my install last night with no problems but as I was reading the instructions for the DLPKGM, it says that you need to hit the lock button during programing. I am only using d2d for the passlock and have no plans for doing the door locks. Will this program itself once I start the car or am I going to have to get another module? Thanks again.

When programming the DLPKGM, if it looks for lock, but you aren't hooking it up, then most likely it's looking for a negative signal at the DLPKGM. If this is the case, figure out which wire needs to see the lock signal, and just put it to ground instead of hitting lock. That should do it.

Also, the four pin harness you're referring to is for outputs. It's a low current output designed only to drive a relay. You would use it to add another circuit if you needed it. In your case, the second ignition. DO NOT HOOK THEM TO THE CAR DIRECTLY!

In alot of cases with GMs, you don't need the second accessory. All it does is power up the radio. So if you don't want to go get the relay, you probably don't need to power up that second accessory circuit.

If you are still stuck, I will help you.

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Been installing for 15 years

Damn, no editing post.

When I said put the DLPKGM lock wire to ground, I meant a temporary touch to ground, to simulate a ground signal from a lock command from the car.

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Been installing for 15 years

I think I'm just going to go with w2w, sounds like a more reliable solution. Thanks

W2W IS the most reliable way,  sometimes D2D can give you some issues.  W2W avoids them.