hks turbo timer, clifford immobiliser
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 22, 2024 at 11:16 PM
Topic: hks turbo timer, clifford immobiliser
Posted By: is200_turbo
Subject: hks turbo timer, clifford immobiliser
Date Posted: October 10, 2010 at 5:23 AM
HI all, have just got a new turbo timer that i need to fit to my car, the car has a clifford alarm.
so i know it wont be plug and play,
it has 3 wires on it that would normally go to the ignition key switch my understanding is this now needs to go after the clifford and before the car electronics can anyone confirm
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 10, 2010 at 5:29 AM
Would have been much easier to use an aux output from the alarm and a single relay, simpler to wire, more efficient and no ugly box to fit.
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Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: October 10, 2010 at 5:42 AM
unfortunately all the Aux outputs are already in use for various other features on the car.
the HKS turbo timer is quite sexy looking and have a new home for this in the custom dash that's being made over Christmas so just need to wire it in
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 10, 2010 at 5:54 AM
I have a feeling you're posting from the UK; is this a G4 or G5 Cat l?
It would have been helpful to have given the car and the alarm, if you do I'll give you the details of what to do.
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Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: October 10, 2010 at 6:02 AM
Its a Turbo lexus IS200 with a G5 Cat1
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 10, 2010 at 6:12 AM
You will need a standard Bosch type 5 pin relay and a 1N4004 diode.
Cut alarm's (650 ll?) black IGN side wire, then;
Ignition output from turbo timer to 86.
Diode from 86 to 87a with band towards 86.
Key side of cut wire to 87a.
12volt + constant supply, fused at 30amps to 87.
Ground (earth) to 85.
Other (IGN) side of cut wire to 30.
Dead easy, if you've any problems I can do this for you (NOT FREE!) if you're in the London area.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: October 10, 2010 at 6:22 AM
thanks will pop to the race workshop and pick up some bits and will take some photos for the thread to help others...
Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: October 10, 2010 at 6:48 AM
ok thought before i would head down the workshop as its half hour away i would read paper work from previous owner
all i can find is its a Clifford 5.5 does the above still apply
how much would you charge to wire this in if i wanted to go down this route..
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 10, 2010 at 6:51 AM
From Ł45 depending on where you are inc. relay etc.
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Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: April 23, 2011 at 5:47 AM
Sorry to revive the old thread been out the country living the life in Qatar lol anyway back now to a flat battery but hey what did I expect almost 6 months in a garage lol
So just wiring this in now the car has intelistart also basses on the above both the Intellistart and the alarm black wire need to go to the new relay Pin 87a then the factory wire in this case chunky RED / black to common pin 30
Cheers how is everybody
Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: April 23, 2011 at 1:18 PM
Ok well that's it all fitted and works a treat am I right in the fact with the timer fitted I can't activate the alarm and walk away ? As this is my finding
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 23, 2011 at 3:39 PM
If you followed my original wiring you could.
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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: April 23, 2011 at 4:21 PM
I have followed your wiring withthe exception that I have 2 feeds from the alarm
Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: April 23, 2011 at 4:23 PM
Could it be that once I turn the ignition off I have to open a door before I can arm it ?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 23, 2011 at 4:49 PM
You have to set it up with the engine still running. Look in your owner's manual.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: April 24, 2011 at 2:40 AM
thanks for that but that hasn't helped. i will go look in the owners manual, guessing what you are saying is i have to activate a setting to enable me to arm the car with the engine running right ?
for reference when i turn the car off i have to open a door for me to be able to lock the car the dash stays illuminated until i do this, this also prevents me from arming the car.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 24, 2011 at 3:28 AM
Look at how I originally posted on how to wire it, when you replied a couple of days ago you definitely didn't follow the same method and yes I agree with T&t.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: April 24, 2011 at 3:35 AM
sorry howie, you are correct i did not follow it exactly as you said my mistake instead of cutting the black wire from the alarm output i found where the installer had connected it to the factory loom so just un-soldered it from there and then connected the relay up as you have described between the factory wiring and the alarm (exactly the same as cutting and joining on the black wire from the alarm)
Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: April 24, 2011 at 3:37 AM
oh and yes this was a thread revival would you have rather i started a new thread about exactly the same thing i had already been discussing ?
as stated i have been working out the country for some time so this was the 1st chance i had to get round to fitting this
Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: April 24, 2011 at 4:13 AM
is200_turbo did the correct thing by not creating a new thread. Snide remarks to the contrary are unnecessary. Bickering is needed even less. Drop it and move on. -------------  the12volt • Support the12volt.com
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 24, 2011 at 7:23 AM
OK, knuckles rapped, I stand corrected. Bad football (soccer) result yesterday, we aren't going to get into the Champions League and I was in a mood.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: April 24, 2011 at 7:54 AM
It's ok Howard I won't hold it against you lol
Posted By: is200_turbo
Date Posted: April 25, 2011 at 5:28 AM
Ok went back to double check everything to ensure it was installed as suggested which it was
however I overlooked the fact the hks turbo timer input from ign also stays live whilst the timer is running, a simple diode with band towards the factory wiring cured this I can now set the alarm whilst the turbo timer is doing it's thing
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