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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: suggestions alarm r/s nissan maxima 04

Posted By: juan05
Subject: suggestions alarm r/s nissan maxima 04
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 11:41 AM

im looking to install an alarm r/s on a nissan maxima 04. im looking for the best and Easiest way to do it.Any suggestions on what i alarm i should buy? Thanks

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Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM

the best alarm is no specific brand. An alarm is only as good as the install.

The easiest way is to have a professional do it. Now you can tackle the DIY, but anything name brand wise such as DEI, compustar, autopage, avox/prestige, are all equally hard to install if you have no basic electrical knowledge.



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Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 12:30 PM
thanks for your reply, i do i have done alarms r/s before.I just came on this site trying to see if someone could give me some advice as i have read installers giving some pointers in other post. Is this site not ment to help people out with their install?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 4:16 PM
Yes but you have to decide what you want, all the above named brands are good product, none of them really encourage DIY installation, you're on your own there. We will advise you to the best of our knowledge but we won't hold your hand or spoon feed you.
Incidentally in the real world the best is rarely the easiest.

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Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 5:21 PM
Hey howie thanks for taking time to answer. I understand that no one can hold my hand and go wire per wire with me. All i was asking for was advice on a good alarm and module for this car. I know some modules require less work then others i just wanted to hear some suggestions. Thanks

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Sorry sir, it doesn't change the fact that Tedmund has given you a good answer, we can't advise one over the other, for us they're easy, but then we know beforehand what does what etc. All the decent brands require extremely similar amounts of work with similar outside components such as a by-pass or extra sensors.
If one brand stood out in terms of easy install and reliability, there'd only be one name in Tedmund's answer. Remember we don't know your technical proficiency, have you soldered in a car before? Do you own the right tools, a DMM etc. etc.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Yes i have solderd in side a car before i have the right tools. I just wanted to hear some advice from someone who has done one of these before. I have read a lot of forums where someone asks for advice on a type of module they should use or alarm and guys help them out with suggestions. I want to do this install myself rather then to pay 600 bucks. I feel like i can do this install if not i wouldnt risk messing up my car . But again thanks for ur advice.

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Posted By: mpe235
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 6:19 PM
As far as bypasses go the 556u is probably the easiest to install. It will require an extra key which can be a little expensive. The xk07 is also a pretty easy install and doesn't require the use of a key. You can usually find the 556u on ebay for less than $20. The xk07 is $30 to $45 on ebay.

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Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: November 23, 2010 at 8:31 PM

the fortin keyoverride all is a very easy bypass to hook up.

i prefer compustar units, but thats just my preferance.



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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: November 24, 2010 at 6:03 AM

I'll chip in here as a DIY guy.  OK, a Professional DIY guy. I'll try most anything for a challenge, but can admit when I over my head.

I like the Viper 5301 rs and the Viper 5701 rs/alarm.  (Python 580, 872, and Clifford 1.3 and 3.3, same thing different name.) I have installed them both in my vehicles and like the features of these systems. Granted, since I installed them my self, there is on warranty from DEI.  I first had a Viper 571xv which was fine, but I thought the range was a bit short compared to the LE series and the having to press a combination of buttons was too confusing for the wife.  Also, that first install was a disaster. I used scotchlocks, did not solder a thing, tried to do it  while watching the Vikings get killed, and had my head up my  A**.

Tedmond pointed me in the direction of the Fortin bypass and I love them. Just gotta pay attention to what you are doing. ie, test/verify  EVERY wire. And then double check it.

Do your research for your vehicle and use the search feature of this site. Chances are some one has already asked the same question, ie, wire for rear window defrost, relays and door locks.

Take you time. Plan on an entire week-end for this. Read the manuals that come with the unit.  Thats my 2 cents. (pence for you Howie). lol

And if you find the info from this site helpful, please donate to keep it going.  My plug for the the12volt.com.



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 24, 2010 at 7:32 AM

Another 2 cents....

First decide how elaborate you want to go.  A basic alarm will monitor the doors, hood and truck.  Then comes shock sensors, motion sensors, glass sensors, proximity/warn away sensors.  Don't forget battery back up, window roll-ups, etc.  All of this adds to the cost, time to install and setup / programming of the alarm.

Next comes the type of remote transmitters.  There are one way, two way, LCD display, long range.  Drone and iPhone...   Again, the price goes up with the features.

As a DITYer, you will not have the programming tools the Professional Installers have.  Things like BitWriter, OP500, XKLoader, ADS USB cable, FlashLink cable make things easier.  Also you will not have full access to the alarm & bypass manufacturer Tech Support.  And of course, there would be no "lifetime warranty" because the item wasn't installed by an authorized dealer.

All of the above should be taken into consideration before you make any purchase.

A few tips:

Most DEI bypass modules need the correct firmware loaded ( flashed ) on to them with a special USB cable. 

The iDatalink Solo series bypass modules come pre-loaded with the correct firmare, but it might not be the latest version, depending on where you by it.

All the Fortin bypass modules come peloaded but might not be the latest version, depending on where you buy it.

The major Alarm/Remote Start manufacturers ( DEI, Compustar, etc) all make good products.  They differ in price, features and avalability.  If you are not familiar with the brand / model, a lot of reasearch would be needed to see if it met your needs.

Check with your local install shops for their recommendation and price.  While they will promote their preferred brands, you will get some good ideas.  Choose a name brand.  It will make your life easier if you need support and when you sell the car.  Some no name brand from "Online Auctions" might be less expensive but getting support will be diffcult and reliability is a major concern ( just reading the poorly translated install guides would be a major issue ).  As mentioned earlier, the most important part is the actual install.  Done correctly, you will have no problems and, aside from replacing the remotes batteries occasionally, excellent performance.

My personal choice would be a Compustar CM6000 with the RF-2WG5-SS remotes and the iDatalink ADS-DLSL CA2 bypass module.  But I have theCompustar OP500  programmer and the iDatalink ADS USB cable to program and flash the units.



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Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: November 24, 2010 at 7:47 AM
Thanks tedmond and smokeman1, Thanks for the tips i will definitely test every wire and double check it. Im going to take a look at the fortin bypass also ,i was thinking of getting a viper alarm r/s i hear alot of good things about them. I find this site SUPER helpful cause of installers like you guys willing to help out diy youre self guys like me. I didnt know you could donate to it,I will definitely give a contribution. Hopefully i get everything orderd today and ill let you guys know how it went. Thanks

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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: November 24, 2010 at 10:07 AM

kreg357 brings up many excellent other points to consider. All which add to the cost and time involved.



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Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: November 24, 2010 at 7:00 PM

what kreg said....posted_image



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Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: November 25, 2010 at 12:32 PM
Thanks for adding 2 more cents kreg you gave me alot alot of great information. Thanks to everybody who took thier time to help me out. I hope all you guys have a happy thanks giving . Hopefully my next post is about a smoth and successful install.

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Posted By: Thack79
Date Posted: November 26, 2010 at 9:22 AM
get the smallest wire splicers you can find and take your time. Google anything Maxima you may find someone that has probably have it all out there considering its a common car.




Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: November 27, 2010 at 11:38 AM
thanks thack will do. Ok this is with what i went with AUTOPAGE C3-RS1100 and the < color=#002398> iDatalink ADS-DLSL-C​A2.  I payed an extra 5 bucks to get the firmware load on the module. Has anyone done this combo before?Any helpfull tips? im planning on doing this install next weekend guys thanks for all your help.

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 27, 2010 at 11:59 AM

The iDatalink bypass module is a good choice but will only handle the immobilizer for you on the 2004 Maxima ( unless the BCM was upgraded ).  Follow the ADS ALSL NI install guide for a Type 1 install.  You won't need to connect the lock, unlock, trunk, tach, door status, trunk status or  hood status wires to theiDatalink  module as they are not operational for your 2004 Maxima application.  All of those connections will be from the AutoPage brain directly to the car.



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Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: November 27, 2010 at 12:17 PM
I was just looking at the chart in the idatalink website and saw that thanks for giving me the heads up. Now i also saw that i have 2 starter and 2 acc . The autopage has a 2 nd starter but not a 2 nd acc . I will have to use a relay and i am seeing diffrent ways to wire it up . Can u tell me how to do it?

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 27, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Not too familiar with the AutoPage unit, but it looks like it has a (-) Accessory 2 output.  You can use that for the ACC2 wire in the car.  Get A 30/40 Amp SPDT relay and an inline fuse holder with a 20 Amp fuse.  Wire as follows:

Relay Pin 85 to AutoPage (-) Accessory 2 output
Relay Pin 86 and Pin 87 to +12v constant thru fuse
Relay Pin 30 to Maxima ACC2 wire
Relay Pin 87A not used - insulate



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Posted By: jpadj22
Date Posted: November 27, 2010 at 8:57 PM
Thanks kreg so the 200 mA is enough to activate the selanoid in the relay?




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 27, 2010 at 9:38 PM
Yes.  That is the usual propose of the R/S outputs (  (-)Starter2, (-)Accessory2 & (-)Ignition2 ), to energize additional relays for the cars ignition circuits.  The typical 30/40A SPDT 12v relay coil pulls ~76mA.

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Posted By: jpadj22
Date Posted: November 27, 2010 at 9:50 PM
I just did the same car about 2 weeks ago used a diffrent autopage though. Kreg told me about the idatalink for this car and for a dodge nitro great guy always willing to help!! I tried to pm u but i couldnt just wanted to say thanks i re did the nitro working great. I just had some trouble with the 2nd acc in mine. Thanks for everything kreg the wife and sister in law are very happy!!




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 28, 2010 at 9:12 AM
Great news!  Just in time for the cold weather.  Sorry, my in box went full.  Thanks for the kind words.  posted_image

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Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: December 02, 2010 at 12:25 PM

hey everybody just got the alarm in and the module. Im having a little dificulty on understanding how to do my door lock and unlock . I found this way but i dont think it will work for me ............

Pin 14: one pulse disarms and turns on the domelight. A second pulse unlocks all the doors.

Pin 11: A full, one-second pulse locks the doors and arms the factory alarm. Read the special note above about pin 11; the product you're installing must have a 1-second doorlock pulse. Some products put out a .8 second pulse; I'm not sure how that will work.

Pin 13: Usually does lock/arm with one pulse, but on that particular car, it didn't seem to want to work

now the autopage has a .8 sec pulse so i dont think this will work. Does anyone know how i can do it?Thanks.



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Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: December 02, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Sorry for that ill re do it . Ok i was doing my research for the lock and unlock and i only found this way

Pin 14 @ bcm one pulse disarms and turns on the domelight. A secound pulse unlocks all doors

Pin 11 @ bcm a full, one secound pulse locks the doors and arms the factory alarm. The product youre installing must have a 1 sec doorlock pulse.

Pin 13 @ bcm usually lock/arm with one pulse,but not that particular car,it didnt seem to want to work

Now the autopage has the option of a dbl pulse lock and unlock . i can get the unlock to work but what about the lock because it only has a .8 sec pulse. dose anyone know of a better way? Thanks.



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Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: December 06, 2010 at 1:50 PM
Hi guys I did the install this weekend everything went very smooth. I had all ur advice in my head double checked ALL my wires before soldering anything .Took my time it took me roughly a day and a half to complete but I'm very happy with turn out.Thanks kreg for helping me out. Thanks to everybody who took their time to write on this subject. I hope this helps someone eles. posted_image posted_image posted_image

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: December 06, 2010 at 2:25 PM
Good work, well done.
You lose me my bet with Kreg though, thought you wouldn't post till next week end!

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Posted By: juan05
Date Posted: December 06, 2010 at 8:06 PM
Thanks howie, well it's time to pay up. One question how do I close the topic?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: December 07, 2010 at 2:56 AM
Post no more unless of course you feel you want to chime in with an opinion on this on or any other topic. Some one else attempting thus install might be about to make a serious error and you can help from your experience.
All the best.


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