2002 Dodge Dakota Remote Start

I have a few questions maybe you guys can answer for me. I have a 2002 Dodge Dakota. I want to install a remote start. I have the avitial 4103.

1. the Direct wire 2.0 printout say my locks are a negative trigger. 820ohm resistor for lock and 330 ohm for unlock. also it says MUST use relays.. can some one draw me a diagram for the relays? can some one draw me a diagram for the relays? Also does it matter what watt the resistors are?? 1/4, 1/2, 1/8w??

2. Parking lights. The Directwire sheet says I have 2 wires for the parking lights. how to I hook thes up?and How do I know if the light system draws more than 10amps??( I'm guessing I can figure this out by checking the fuse.)

Also the directwire sheet says i have a "lock motor" wire. is this needed?

Thanks Guys
-Bryan-

For the door locks, here is a diagram from Bulldog Security.  The top diagram is correct for a remote start with (-) lock outputs.  The lock motor wire is not necessary.

For the Parking Lights both Bulldog Security and Audiovox say BLACK / YELLOW (+) at the headlight switch.

Bulldog:   PARKING LIGHTS ( + )     BLACK / YELLOW (+)       @ HEADLIGHT SWITCH 

Audiovox:  Parking Lights      BLACK / YELLOW  (+)       HEADLIGHT SWITCH

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1. Lock:

Pin 86 green lock output from 4103
Pin 30 ground with 820 ohm resistor inline
Pin 85 Fused constant +12V
Pin 87 WHITE/ green wire in truck

Unlock:

Pin 86 blue unlock output from 4103
Pin 30 ground with 330 ohm resistor inline
Pin 85 Fused constant +12V
Pin 87 WHITE/ green wire in truck

If you pick up a 451M DEI door lock relay pack it will plug right into the door lock port on the brain of your system, and include all required resistors. It's a lot smaller than 2 standard relays too. They are inexpensive IMO ($7 on ebay shipped.)

2. The two wires listed for your 2002 Dakota are options you have for hooking up the parking lights, either will work. You can trigger them either with a negative (RED / yellow at CTM) or positive trigger (BLACK / YELLOW at CTM). In most new vehicles I hook up using negative trigger whenever possible, but your ignition wires supply enough to use the BLACK / YELLOW at the headlight switch...just hook your white parking light output to it and you will be fine. The included 10amp fuse is plenty to supply the parking lights.

You do not need to concern yourself with the actuator wires (motor wires). This information is useful for remote starts being activated without their own keyfob and for progressive unlocking...neither of which really apply to your particular setup using the 4103.

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any resistor watt size will work

for the park lights it a single positive wire BLACK / YELLOW at back of fuse box will work

if you want pics of this truck pm me or email me

WOW.. Thanks a bunch guys for the quick replys

Your welcome if you need any more help posts some more

i do have detailed pic on the wiring of this vehicle if you need them



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monty_77 wrote:

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Your welcome if you need any more help posts some more

i do have detailed pic on the wiring of this vehicle if you need them

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ok, another question. Neutral safety switch. manual says to download "Document 1008" from the directed site.. I dont have access.

I'll take a lot at those pics if you dont mind.
Btschroer@comcast.net

I sent you both the pic and the document

I think most people in automatics just wire it to a ground

Also it you are looking for document and manuals for anything you may want to search the downloads section it might all ready be there doc 1008 was not there



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monty_77 wrote:

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I sent you both the pic and the document

I think most people in automatics just wire it to a ground

Also it you are looking for document and manuals for anything you may want to search the downloads section it might all ready be there doc 1008 was not there

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the pics are perfect! this is gonna be a breeze.

ok. last question..

on the pdf from directed, it say my truck is a transponder vehicle. I didnt think it was. I have a black key, non-security. I thought the transponder's were with the gray "skim" key that had factory security.

if its the black key you are good to go not all the dodge had the sentry key at that time if it not gray it does not have a transponder in it



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bryanrt360 wrote:

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monty_77 wrote:

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I sent you both the pic and the document

I think most people in automatics just wire it to a ground

Also it you are looking for document and manuals for anything you may want to search the downloads section it might all ready be there doc 1008 was not there

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the pics are perfect! this is gonna be a breeze.

ok. last question..

on the pdf from directed, it say my truck is a transponder vehicle. I didnt think it was. I have a black key, non-security. I thought the transponder's were with the gray "skim" key that had factory security.

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nevermind. My truck is NOT a transponder vehicle.

Hey Guys. I'm looking at the wiring for a 2002 Dakota and it is showing 3 ignition wires. What did you do with the 3rd ignition wire? I know for example the Ultra Start has room for 2 ignition wires?

Sorry, should have been clear. I saw the wire diagram that shows 3 ignition wires on Bulldogs site. https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/diagrams/printpage.asp?ModelID=13847&MakeID=16

But now I'm looking at another diagram from Directed and it's only showing 2 ignition wires.

i checked direct wire and they only show the 2 ignition wires too dk blue and small dk GREEN/ red

2002 Dodge Dakota      DirectWire 2.0 Vehicle Information
     
     
All Products
     
     
Item     Wire Color     Polarity     Wire Location
12 Volts     pnk/blk & RED / lt blu     +     ignition harness
Second 12 Volts               
Starter     yellow     +     ignition harness
Second Starter               
Ignition     blue     +     ignition harness
Second Ignition     GREEN/ red (18 ga)     +     ignition harness
Third Ignition               
Accessory     BLACK/ orange     +     ignition harness
Second Accessory     green     +     ignition harness
Third Accessory               
Keysense               
Data Bus               
Can Bus High               
Can Bus Low               
Can Bus Sw               
Power Lock     WHITE/ green     -     conn. 2, pin 10 @ CTM
     Lock is negative trigger thru a 820 ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 330 ohm resistor. MUST use relays. The Central Timer Module is in the driver kick panel.
Power Unlock     same wire          
Lock Motor     ORANGE / black          conn. 2, pin 4 @ CTM
     The Central Timer Module is in the driver kick panel.
Driver Unlock Motor     blue          conn. 2, pin 6 @ CTM
     The Central Timer Module is in the driver kick panel.
Passenger Unlock Motor     pink/black          conn. 2, pin 5 @ CTM
     The Central Timer Module is in the driver kick panel.
Parking Lights (-)     RED / yellow          conn. 1, pin 4 @ CTM
     The Central Timer Module is in the driver kick panel.
Parking Lights (+)     BLACK / YELLOW          headlight switch
Hazards               
Turn Signal (Left)               
Turn Signal (Right)               
Headlight     lt. GREEN/ orange     -     headlight switch
AutoLights               
Reverse Light               
Left Front Door Trigger          -     CTM
     The Central Timer Module is in the driver kick panel. The driver door trigger is tan in connector 2, pin 15. The passenger door trigger (and rears on the 4dr) is tan/red in connector 2, pin 13. Use both and diode isolate each. See directfax document #1076 for wiring information.
Right Front Door Trigger               
Left Rear Door Trigger               
Right Rear Door Trigger               
Dome Supervision     use door trigger          
Trunk/Hatch Pin               
Rear Glass Pin               
Hood Pin               
Trunk/Hatch Release               
Trunk Release Motor               
Fuel Door Release               
Power Sliding Door (Left)               
Power Sliding Door (Right)               
Factory Alarm Arm     lt. GREEN/ orange     -     conn. 2, pin 14 @ CTM
     Arm is negative trigger thru a 644 ohm resistor. Disarm is negative trigger thru a 1565 ohm resistor. MUST use relays. This wire will also lock the doors, and it will unlock with a double pulse. The Central Timer Module is in the driver kick panel.
Factory Alarm Disarm     same wire          
Disarm No Unlock               
Trunk Alarm Shunt               
Tachometer               ignition coil
     On the 2.5L/3.9L/5.9L models use BLACK/ gray at the ignition coil. The 4.7L models have an ignition coil for each cylinder, use the wires that is NOT GREEN/ orange at one of the coils.
Wait to Start               
Neutral Safety               
Clutch Pedal               
Fuel Pump               
Rear Defroster               
Mirror Defroster               
Left Front Heated Seat               
Right Front Heated Seat               
Speed Sense     WHITE/ orange or blue          conn. 2, pin 27 @ PCM
     The Powertrain Control Module is on the passenger fender.
Brake Wire     WHITE/ tan     +     brake pedal switch
Parking Brake               
Horn Trigger     BLACK/ red     -     steering column or CTM
     The Central Timer Module is in the driver kick panel.
Wipers     purple(L), RED / gry(H     +     steering column
Left Front Window (Up/Down)     lt. blue - white     A     driver window switch
Right Front Window (Up/Down)     brn/wht - pur/wht     A     driver kick panel
Left Rear Window (Up/Down)     blu/wht - RED / blk     A     driver kick panel
Right Rear Window (Up/Down)     gry/blk - grn/wht     A     driver kick panel
Sun Roof (Open/Close)               
Sun Roof (Limit/Close)               
Memory Seat 1               
Memory Seat 2               
Memory Seat 3               
Radio 12V     pink     +     radio
Radio Ground     black     -     radio
Radio Ignition     RED / white     +     radio
Radio Illumination     white     +     radio
Factory Amp Turn-on               
Power Antenna               
Left Front Speaker (+/-)     lt grn/pu-lt grn/grn          radio
Right Front Speaker (+/-)     lt blu/pu-lt blu/blk          radio
Left Rear Speaker (+/-)     wht/red - wht/blk          radio
Right Rear Speaker (+/-)     tan/pur - tan/blk          radio
Center Channel (+/-)               
Subwoofer (+/-)               
Aux. Audio Input Left (+/-)               
Aux. Audio Input Right (+/-)               
RSE Video (+/-)               
RSE Audio Left (+/-)               
RSE Audio Right (+/-)               
Satellite Radio 12 Volts               
Satellite Radio Ground               
Satellite Radio Ignition               
Satellite Radio Antenna               
Satellite Audio Left (+/-)               
Satellite Audio Right (+/-)               
Item     Size     Depth     Location
Headunit               
Left Front Speaker               
Left Front Tweeter               
Right Front Speaker               
Right Front Tweeter               
Left Rear Speaker               
Left Rear Tweeter               
Right Rear Speaker               
Right Rear Tweeter               
Center Channel               
Subwoofer               
Left Front Headrest               
Right Front Headrest               
Left Rear Headrest               
Right Rear Headrest               
Satellite Radio Tuner               
     
     
Smart Starter Kill Relay
     
Relay Type:
Part #:
OE Relay Part #:
Location:
          
n/a
n/a
n/a
Notes:
n/a
Alternate Part Notes:
n/a
     
Interface Modules
     
     
SKU     Module Description     Upgradeable     Keys Required for Programming     Keys Required for Operation

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I see it is real easy to get to a tach wire on the 4.7 L. But what about all the other Liter Dakotas? Would you have to go to the ignition coil? I see you have to take the air filter out to get to the coil, just wondering if there is an easy place to get the tach wire?

you should be able to use any uncommon wire on an injector too

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Sorry for the question, I really appreciate your help. But how do I know if it's an "uncommon wire"? Or what an Uncommon wire is?

Most Fuel Injectors have two wires.  if you inspect several injectors, you will notice that they all have one wire that is the same color, but each injector has a unique colored wire.  That unique colored wire is the one you want.  Verify with a Digital Multi Meter set to 20V AC.  The reading should be between 1 - 6 volts at idle and rise with RPM's.

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Awesome! thank you very much..information

Just to make sure, you mean put the multi meter setting to 20V DC right?

no you will need one with AC setting on it

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Tach signals are checked as AC voltages.  A DMM with a Frequency setting is OK too.

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monty_77 wrote:

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Your welcome if you need any more help posts some more

i do have detailed pic on the wiring of this vehicle if you need them

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Success!! everything works like it should. Thanks again for all the info

monty_77 wrote:

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Your welcome if you need any more help posts some more

i do have detailed pic on the wiring of this vehicle if you need them

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I just try to sent you a PM. inbox must be full.    

Do you have a detailed pic for a 2006 nissan maxima?

Thanks
Bryan

clean out inbox

Hi guys.

Looking for a little help with a 2002 Dodge Dakota, I have installed a Autopage 665-2W, everything works, well almost everything, when I try to remote start I just get 3 beeps from the transmitter, nothing else, no relays kick in or anything, I have re-checked the wiring and it all looks good, I followed the wiring guide in this topic. I have a black key no transponder / immobilizer.

Any help would be appreciated..

TIA

Are you positive you have the remote starter in auto and not manual transmission.

Also make sure that your have the neutral safety wire hooked up that some remote starts have

The Autopage unit is designed only for Automatics, the neutral safety wire was wired straight to ground..