1999 acura integra with viper 5902
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Topic: 1999 acura integra with viper 5902
Posted By: b20vtec2
Subject: 1999 acura integra with viper 5902
Date Posted: February 13, 2011 at 9:45 AM
about to do my first install on my new car i bought and i am curious as to why my remote start harness has 4 ignition out puts when my car only has two....this may sound confusing the way i worded it so let me go into detail with a diagram.
ok the car is a 99 Acura integra 2 dr 5speed
the 12VOLT diagram of this car shows a igntion1 and ignition 2
Now my alarm and remote start system is a viper 5902.
the install wire diagram that comes with the 5902 has 5 ignition outputs/inputs
the H3 remote start 10 pin conector harness shows H3/1 to be + ignition 1 input/output and H3/2 +(FUSED) (30A) ignition2 /Flex relay input 87
then on the same connector H3. it says H3/6 (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT then it says it again at H3/7(+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX REALAY OUTPUT.
Now it says something about ignition again on the H2 Harness (the 18 pin one) H2/14 (-) 200mA ignition 1 output
My question is
1) what in the word is a flex relay < flux capiactior maybe :dunno:
2) what do all of those ignition input/out puts do
3) wich 2 wires do i hook to my ignition harnes and what do i do with the other 2
4) why is there a input / output thing why not just a input?
5) my alarm system there were no relays in the box....do i need any?
Replies:
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: February 13, 2011 at 10:04 AM
1) Flex relay is specially designed for vehicles that need ignition switch isolation, in your case not needed.
2) These outputs and inputs all function but in your case all are not needed
3) You car would only be using the wires on the heavy harness, namely, pink - igniton, pink/white -ignition 1, orange- accessory,
4) again that input output is only for the flex relay ignore it
5) No.
Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: February 13, 2011 at 10:21 AM
Ok im showing on that (H3) REMOTE START HARNESS THE (10 PIN) CONNECTOR
AS Pink being H3/1 +IGNITION 1
AND THE COLOR YOU SAID PINK/WHITE BEING H3/7 IGNITION 2
so how did u get pink white being ignition 1?
Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: February 13, 2011 at 10:29 AM
what about the wires on the remote start harness that are fused? shouldnt i use them instead of the wires that are not fused.
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: February 13, 2011 at 12:30 PM
All the fused wires go to a proper 12 volts source (such as at the ignition harness), the pink is what you refer to as ignition 1 and the pink/white is ignition 2, however installers refer differently to them.
Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: February 13, 2011 at 3:43 PM
so do i used the fused wires on the viper harness or the unfused ones?
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT / OUTPUT
H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87
H3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT
Above listed is what i read off the wiring guide for the viper 5902. I typed it exactly as it was on the paper wich ones do i use? Thank you very much for all your help sorry im noob status lol
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: February 14, 2011 at 4:08 PM
All the reds go to a proper constant twelve volt source, you will be using all the wires you listed above.
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Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: February 14, 2011 at 9:22 PM
huh? so your saying i will be hooking 4 wires into 2?
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: February 15, 2011 at 5:22 AM
Four wires into two? All three reds on the heavy harness and the red on the primary harness to a 12 volt source, how much more clarity do you need?
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COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF.
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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: February 15, 2011 at 6:25 AM
First you MUST test and verify the wires on your car with a Digital Mulit Meter (DMM).
Bulldog site for wiring: https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp This any any other wiring diagrams are ONLY a guide. You car may have different colors, hence the need to test all wires BEFORE making any connections.
H3/6, H3/9, and H1/2, will go to the cars 12 volt constant. H3/1 to vehicle ignition 1. H3/3 to vehicle accessory. H3/4 to starter wire, if not cutting starter wire.
Use the search box for this site for your vehicle and viper 5902
In the downloads section of this site is the manual for the Viper 5701. Download it. Starting on page 13 is a section on how to find the wires you need with a DMM. ------------- When all else fails, Read the Instructions
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Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: March 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM
what about the H2/18 (-) Neutral Safety Input what do i hook that up to? my car is a 5 speed not a automatic
what do i hook up on the H2 18 pin harness?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 13, 2011 at 2:28 PM
Please do not attempt this yourself, from your questions I can tell you that you are going to cause your self lots of expensive grief.
Do you have a DMM?
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: March 13, 2011 at 9:25 PM
whats a DMM?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 14, 2011 at 3:10 AM
I rest my case.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: March 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM
just looked up dmm was and yes i do have a DIGITAL MULTI METER!!! never herd it called that before thats why i dint know what it was. i have a fluke 179
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 14, 2011 at 10:53 AM
OK then back to your first post;
you're questioning the site here, take your DMM and test!!!
Once we know what you have we might be able to help.
No one here will hold your hand through this install, it isn't worth our time and repeatedly telling you "I told you do do this" etc.
This really is a pro install although the car is dead easy.
We haven't even got to basics such as is there a factory alarm and or immobiliser; the only person who can tell us is you!
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: March 14, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Read my post from Feb 15. Howie II is correct on how easy this car should be. Get the meter out and test.
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 14, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Smokeman, I think this could be the new record post unless the moderators come in on this one. I see t&t quite rightly lost it with the poster.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: March 14, 2011 at 8:14 PM
all im asking is do i have to hook up anythign on the h2 harness and if so what to?
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: March 14, 2011 at 8:27 PM
Does the car have a neutral safety switch? The wires required on that harness are
Gray- hood switch
Brown- Brake
BLACK/ white-Nss ------------- COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF.
PSALMS 37:5
Posted By: Thack79
Date Posted: March 15, 2011 at 2:25 PM
where are you located??
Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: March 21, 2011 at 10:12 PM
t&t tech wrote:
Does the car have a neutral safety switch? The wires required on that harness are
Gray- hood switch
Brown- Brake
BLACK/ white-Nss
the car is a 5 speed integra? what is a neutral saftey switch? are you refering to a clutch switch? if so yes my car does have a clutch switch. couldnt i hook up the nss to my hand brake?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 22, 2011 at 2:53 AM
It wont have one. The clutch switch is
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 22, 2011 at 2:54 AM
Sorry, hit the post button too early.
It doesn't have a NSS, the clutch switch is NOT one.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: March 22, 2011 at 6:27 PM
so what do i do with the nss wire?
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: March 22, 2011 at 10:18 PM
Ground it.
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COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF.
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 23, 2011 at 7:49 AM
Or perhaps even RTFM.
We really shouldn't have to answer these questions.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: b20vtec2
Date Posted: March 23, 2011 at 1:23 PM
thanks man. ok guys one more question i swear this is the last one.
i read that it comes out of the box set up for a manual transmission but i have to inatalize it in order to do remote start. ie set it up somehow. and no im not talking about hiting the brake, arming it while im in car etc. do i need a bitwriter to inatalize it?
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: March 23, 2011 at 9:28 PM
No. Like howard said you have to read the manual, i tells u exactly how to.
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COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF.
PSALMS 37:5
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