viper 5900 08 nissian titan
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Topic: viper 5900 08 nissian titan
Posted By: gsxrwild
Subject: viper 5900 08 nissian titan
Date Posted: July 04, 2011 at 5:57 PM
I have wired everything up, and everything works, except the remote start. It will turn the truck over but it doesn't fire up and run. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Jon D
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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: July 04, 2011 at 6:19 PM
Did you power both starter wires?
Can you list your Viper H3 wires / connections?
What did you use as the bypass module? ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: gsxrwild
Date Posted: July 04, 2011 at 7:05 PM
BLACK/ white Neutral safety - ground. Violet/white Tach - at the coil WHITE/ Blue, Black and the third is the tach signal wire. Brown Brake switch - RED / Green at the brake switch. Gray Hood switch to hood switch.
Blue/white nothing.
I can put the key in and turn it to ign. then hit the remote start and it works. Then I take the key out and it stays running.
I have the xpresskit DLPK I don't like by the way the book tells you that the blue is 12volt constant, But it's the Red. I even chatted with a tech from them online and the tech told me it was the blue one.
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Jon D
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: July 04, 2011 at 7:39 PM
In the DLPK install guide, it does say that the +12V wire could be other colors depending on the harness
supplied in the kit. It is the closest wire to the 14 Pin connector with the ground next to it. I am
assuming that you are connecting it in the W2W mode, not D2D. The Fortin Can SL2 harness has Red &
Black wires at those pins. ( A DLPK is basically a re-badged Fortin CAN-SL2.)
Did the bypass program properly to the truck? LED flash quickly at Step 6?
Also on the ignition wiring, I misread your Viper to be a 5901 not a 5900. If you could list the wiring
connections for the Heavy Gauge Inline Connector Key Switch Interface. Your truck has 2 Starter and two
Accessory circuits and one Ignition circuit. The heavy gauge Pink/White wire can be programmed to ACC2,
but you will need a relay to power Starter2. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: thecoolmankyle7
Date Posted: July 04, 2011 at 7:47 PM
gsxrwild wrote:
I can put the key in and turn it to ign. then hit the remote start and it works. Then I take the key out and it stays running.
That means the bypass mod is either not hooked up right or not programmed right.
gsxrwild wrote:
I have the xpresskit DLPK I don't like by the way the book tells you that the blue is 12volt constant, But it's the Red. I even chatted with a tech from them online and the tech told me it was the blue one
So your saying that the install guide said use blue and the tech support said it was blue and for some reason you think you know better and that its a differnt wire?
Posted By: gsxrwild
Date Posted: July 04, 2011 at 8:07 PM
Yes the led was flashing rapidly. But I'm still not convinced that it's working properly. SO I cut the brown starter wire hooking the purple to the starter side and the green to the key side. The 2 red are hooked up to the Green (40a).Orange to Red acc. Pink to BLACK/ red ign. pink/white to purple and I programmed it to be acc. RED / white to the green (40)and I have a relay wired to the second starter wire.
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Jon D
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: July 04, 2011 at 8:19 PM
Wiring looks OK. Just to be sure, can you list the Starter2 relay wiring.
Do the door locks work? Also, still assuming W2W due to the D2D harness power / ground connections, where is the DLPK Blue/White wire connected? Should be the Viper BLUE (-) 200 mA STATUS OUTPUT wire. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: gsxrwild
Date Posted: July 05, 2011 at 11:20 PM
So I maybe just forgot to plug the harness on the Viper BLUE (-) 200 mA Status out put back in thanks for all your help. I really appreciate it.
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Jon D
Posted By: gsxrwild
Date Posted: July 05, 2011 at 11:23 PM
Oh and just wondering if anyone has ever not hooked up the second starter wire before. After I got the remote start working. I unplugged the second starter wire just to see what would happen, and everything worked fine. I plugged it back in but I was just kinda wondering if it is really needed or not?
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Jon D
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: July 06, 2011 at 6:04 AM
Not positive on the 2008 Titan, but the Starter2 circuit on a lot of Nissan's is for "Fuel Enrichment". The engine will not start when the engine is cold during cold winter weather without it connected.
The extra 30/40A SPDT relay wired as follows won't hurt to have installed.
Pin 85 to Viper PURPLE (-) 200 mA STARTER RELAY TURN-ON
Pin 86 and Pin 87 to +12v Constant thru 20A fuse
Pin 30 to Titan Starter2 LT. GREEN (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH, (WHITE, 6-PIN LUG), PIN 6
Pin 87A Not Used - Insulate ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 06, 2011 at 7:32 AM
Now at Kreg's prompting I've read this post. Install without the second starter then wait until November.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: gsxrwild
Date Posted: July 06, 2011 at 5:25 PM
So I left the second starter wire hooked up. I was just wondering what is was for. Now I was wondering if anyone has any Idea where the wire for the tach is inside the truck. the on from the coil worked but it's causing a cylinder miss fire on the coil that I have it hooked up to.
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Jon D
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 06, 2011 at 6:20 PM
Try :-
Injector port, each has two wires, one colour is common to all, any of the other colours.
Back of tachometer.
Camshaft position sensor. Three wires, one is ground, second is 12v+IGN. third is the one you want.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: gsxrwild
Date Posted: July 06, 2011 at 6:23 PM
I know that I can tap into the injectors but I'd like to try to find a tach wire inside the cab. I just don't know which wire to hook up to inside behind the gauge cluster. Thanks for all the help.
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Jon D
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 06, 2011 at 6:26 PM
The tacho will have FOUR connectors. Use a DMM.
1) 12v+ on IGN
2) Ground
3) Illumination (probably) 12V+ on lights
4) Tach.
How are you testing.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 06, 2011 at 6:28 PM
Just out of interest I couldn't pick up the tach at the rear of the instrument panel on my own Nissan, I went to the engine management but I knew the pin-outs. If you don't have that info or by the sound of this post you don't know how to test you obviously didn't test your ignition loom, go to an injector or the camshaft position sensor.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: gsxrwild
Date Posted: July 07, 2011 at 6:31 AM
Set the multi-meter to ACV or AC voltage (12V or 20V scale is OK).
Attach the negative (-) probe of the meter to a good chassis ground.
Start and run the vehicle.
Test the wires you suspect of being the vehicle tachometer wire with the positive (+) probe of the meter.
The meter will read between 1V and 6V if the wire is the correct one.
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Jon D
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 07, 2011 at 6:57 AM
Correct.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 07, 2011 at 7:01 AM
DEI list any fuel injector, not white (that would be the common colour to all).
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: dasbogie
Date Posted: July 08, 2011 at 2:53 AM
Your DLPK should give you tach output on the violet/white wire. I have used it in on the titan without trouble and many other nissans. That is inside the vehicle and will probably be relatively close to where you have the brain of the viper.
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Posted By: gsxrwild
Date Posted: July 08, 2011 at 6:46 AM
OK I'll try that thanks
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Jon D
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