2001 silverado remote start/alarm
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Topic: 2001 silverado remote start/alarm
Posted By: bjwelch76
Subject: 2001 silverado remote start/alarm
Date Posted: October 23, 2011 at 3:54 PM
Ok. I installed an autopage RS1100 in my 2001 Silverado. I also installed an expresskiy PLJX to bypass the Passlock II. I programmed the PLJX, and the Autopage. My problem is that when I try to remote start, the engine turns over and over but never starts running. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 23, 2011 at 5:50 PM
Any "Security" type lights on the dash during remote start?
Is the jumper set to the B position on the PLJX? Did you make all the necessary connections as per the Passlock2 / VATS diagram on Page 6 of the install guide ( including the Brown wire to the RS1100 BROWN / Black )? Did it program as per the install guide? ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 23, 2011 at 7:47 PM
I struggled pretty hard with the vague description in the xpresskit install guide. It took me a few hours to hook up those few wires. I could not find a wiring diagram for ignition/key cylinder of my truck, not even in my repair manual wiring schematics. I really need a vehicle specific guide with locations/colors/pics to double check my connections.
Jumper is already set to B. Brown is connected to BROWN / black.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 23, 2011 at 8:15 PM
PLJX Name Destination
Brown GWR AutoPage BROWN / Black - Ground Output While Running
Green Keysense Light Green @ Ignition switch ( might not be necessary )
Blue Passlock Yellow @ Ignition switch Passlock2 Harness
Violet Starter1 Yellow @ Ignition switch ( Thick wire in main ignition harness )
Same wire as RS1100 Starter Output
Pink Ignition1 Pink @ Ignition switch ( Thick wire in main ignition harness )
Same wire as RS1100 Ignition1 Output
Red +12V Red @ Ignition switch ( Thick wire in main ignition harness )
Same wire as RS1100 +12V Constant / Battery
Black Ground Ref ORANGE / Black @ Ignition switch Passlock2 Harness
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Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 23, 2011 at 8:24 PM
Thank you so much! I'll check it all out and post my findings!
Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 24, 2011 at 6:36 PM
Ok. I checked all of the connections and they are ok. When I try to autostart it now, the engine turns over for about 2 seconds, never cranks, and the autopage remote lights up and says "engine running"....even though the engine is not running.
Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 24, 2011 at 6:37 PM
Also, I did reprogram the xpresskit box for kicks and giggles just to make sure on that aspect.
Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 24, 2011 at 6:39 PM
Aaaaand I tried it with and without the key sense wire connected. No change in operation from that.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 24, 2011 at 6:51 PM
Not familiar with the AutoPage units. Could it now be a Tach issue? Are you running in Tach Mode and did you do the Tach Learn process?
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Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 24, 2011 at 7:29 PM
Yes, I did the tach program. What is tach mode? And, is there a way to turn it off, if that's the problem? Or atleast to test it to see if that is it?
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 24, 2011 at 8:09 PM
bjwelch76 wrote:
Ok. I checked all of the connections and they are ok. When I try to autostart it now, the engine turns over for about 2 seconds, never cranks, and the autopage remote lights up and says "engine running"....even though the engine is not running.
A bit confused on your symptoms. When you press the Start button, the ignition circuits should energize ( dash lights up ), then the starter motor should crank the engine, once the engine is running the starter should dis-engage and the engine should continue running for the 20 minute ( default ) run time. In Tach Mode, which is typically the most reliable way to start an engine, the Remote Starter monitors a pre-established signal to determine how long to crank the engines' starter motor. This Tach signal usually comes from the coil or a fuel injector. On your AutoPage RS1100, I believe it is the WHITE/ Red wire on the 22 Pin connector that is connected to the vehicles chosen tach source. Performing the Tach Learn process establishes this tach reference for use by the RS1100 when starting the engine. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM
Granting the fact that I know absolutely zero about alarm installs and even less about the bypass module, I do, however, have extensive experience in vehicle repair.
I may be totally wrong here, but It seems to me that the remote starter is functioning as it should, but the Passlock bypass is failing and not allowing the engine to run. Is there a way to test this bypass module to see if it is even functioning properly?
Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 24, 2011 at 8:51 PM
Also, everything is functioning fine from the accessory connection (the blower motor/heater etc) after the autopage states that the engine is running. All of the accessory functions run, and if you touch the brake pedal all of the accessories shut off like they should, except for the minor situation of the engine not running. Cranks fine with the key though.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 25, 2011 at 6:52 AM
Once again, any "Security" type indicators lighting up on the instrument panel during the attempted remote start?
Passlock2 turns off the fuel pump, so the remote starter should cause the vehicles starter motor to crank the engine. Does the starter motor run and crank the engine?
Will the vehicle continue to idle if you start it with the key and do the "Temporary Stop" procedure ( aka "Pit Stop" mode ) ?
C. TEMPORARY STOP FEATURE:
This feature allows the vehicle to remain running after the key has been removed from the ignition. This
feature is useful for occasions when you wish to exit and lock the vehicle for short periods of time, but would
like to leave the motor running and the climate control on.
1. Before turning off the engine, press the button on the transmitter. Twice if safety start has been
programmed. The LED indicator will flash 3 times to confirm.
2.Turn the ignition key to OFF position. (The engine will stay running.)
3.The engine will run until the pre-programmed time elapsed or a shutdown input is received.
This will verify if the ignition wiring is correct. ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 25, 2011 at 9:17 AM
I'll go sit in it and try to remote start it on my lunch break to see what happens. I'm looking to see if the security light flashes during remote start process, correct?
Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 25, 2011 at 9:19 AM
And I'll try the temp stop thing too.
Stay tuned......more to come 
Posted By: groundzero2010
Date Posted: October 25, 2011 at 2:07 PM
Just curious...Where did you pick up your tach wire and when following the tach learn process did everything learn as expected? Usually there will be a tach learn successful LED sequence or the parking lights are suppose to flash a certain number of times. I'm not familiar with the Autopage systems. ------------- By the way, it was brought to my attention, on your abbreviation for circuit you use "CKT". There is not "K" in circuit. Should this possibly be CCT? - R. Robson
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Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 25, 2011 at 4:02 PM
Tach wire was picked up coming out of the cluster. Tach program was successful.
No security light during autostart attempt
Temporary stop mode would not engage either.
Posted By: groundzero2010
Date Posted: October 25, 2011 at 4:36 PM
The pit stop mode should send 12v to your truck ignition wire so when you remove the key it still thinks the ignition is on. Sounds like you may have some issues with your main power harness.
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By the way, it was brought to my attention, on your abbreviation for circuit you use "CKT". There is not "K" in circuit. Should this possibly be CCT? - R. Robson
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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 25, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Here is another tach signal source ( 2002 Silverado V-8 )
Perhaps you could list your ignition wire connections. Here is a photo :
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Posted By: groundzero2010
Date Posted: October 25, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Kreg - Are you pulling tach from injector plug? Can't really tell from the photo. ------------- By the way, it was brought to my attention, on your abbreviation for circuit you use "CKT". There is not "K" in circuit. Should this possibly be CCT? - R. Robson
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Posted By: bjwelch76
Date Posted: October 25, 2011 at 6:17 PM
Are these pics for me to reference the bypass module wiring or the autopage?
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: October 25, 2011 at 6:48 PM
The Tach is the non-common color wire on the second F.I. from the front on the drivers side.
The pictures are for your reference with the ignition wires. Actually the Passlock2 wires are the three wires in a group above the RED / White +12V constant wire. On this 2002 Silverado, it was Yellow, RED / White and Black. ( The Yellow and Black are the two wires needed. ) For this install, I chose the easy, sure route and used an iDatalink ADS TBSL PL. A Data type bypass with only one wire to connect to the vehicle. ------------- Soldering is fun!
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