05 mercedes c320 4m
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=129035
Printed Date: May 28, 2024 at 11:08 PM
Topic: 05 mercedes c320 4m
Posted By: offroadzj
Subject: 05 mercedes c320 4m
Date Posted: October 31, 2011 at 9:56 PM
I'm looking at possibly doing a starter in an 05 C320 in the near future but have some small concerns. First of all, I did a search on here and found a fairly straight forward wire diagram that didn't show anything special. But then I looked into the DEI wiring through the ReadyRemote site and it is showing some really oddball wiring (low current ignition, etc).
So before this guys spends $180+ on a new laser cut key for the bypass can someone please tell me what I'm looking at with this install...
Thanks in advance.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
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Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: October 31, 2011 at 10:00 PM
And instead of starting another thread. I'm also looking at doing an 07 Infiniti M35x that I could use some insight on as well... basically just info on anything to look out for. And is the wiring the same between the M35 and M35x?
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 5:24 AM
Ref the Mercedes, Compustar do a M/Benz specific, expensive but it's good and easy to install.
Please DO start another thread, too confusing otherwise.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 7:04 AM
Ok. Started a new thread. Yea, the Compustar Mercedes start is probably out of the question unless it is the only option. Thats a pretty hefty price tag and I don't think they will go for it. So is there anything special I'll be looking at by doing it the "old fashioned" way??
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 7:39 AM
Nightmares. Don't think it was ever tried over here, I think you have to pick up everything at one of the fuse boxes. Do you have Directechs access?
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 7:45 AM
Forget Directechs I just looked, "no interface available at this time", locks are CAN etc. etc. Time you start to kludge it up and tear your hair out you might as well have used the Compustar.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 8:11 AM
howie ll wrote:
Forget Directechs I just looked, "no interface available at this time", locks are CAN etc. etc. Time you start to kludge it up and tear your hair out you might as well have used the Compustar.
That's what is throwing me off because I read that and got that eerie feeling, but then I did a search on here and found this:
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=106372&KW=2005+C320
Maybe I'll have to just have him come over and I'll try to find everything and get the install done minus the key in the bypass (xpresskit.com says just a 556uw) then if it all works out have him get the key made and then throw it in the bypass... and just skip locks if he is ok with that.
But furter knowledge is appreciated!!! ------------- Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 8:17 AM
Good luck following that route, those wiring colours are nothing at all like the Directechs colours!
This topic comes up about once a year, my own thoughts are; 98 on, RUN!
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 8:19 AM
Yea, those are usually my thoughts... especially since C.City is not there to back me up if something decides to go wrong... lol. I'm all on my own...
I messaged him back and told him I'm going to have to pass. Without having the resources I used to have, it just not worth the risk.
Thanks for the info!!!
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 8:35 AM
02 onwards, anything from Europe, especially Germany is CAN laden and counter intuitive, I even did an 00 C class a while back, a nightmare, had to go to the pump, open it and 5 wire the motor wires....and it didn't do the trunk, the only good point was that door, trunk and hood triggers were there.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: thecoolmankyle7
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 10:11 AM
I wouldn't even touch it with out the compustar piece! There's to much that can go wrong in those cars. Defiantly don't use a test light what ever you do. Make 100% sure of a wire before hooking it up because if you accidentally send ground or 12v down a can wire your going to be replacing A LOT more than a remotes start, it will have to spend some time in the Mercedes dealership
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Exactly!!!
A friend's company installed a tracking device in a then new S class couple of years ago, pretty simple yes? Rear install, antennae in either light fitting or bumper, battery at rear along with aux fusebox for ign. trigger, hell I've done that myself on BMW, Chrysler 300C.
Wrong, electrical system failure blamed my friend's firm £12,000 ($18,000) bill. Obviously they fought it and won but we've all been there, falsely blamed, do you as a one man band need that?
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 10:30 AM
Also X 2 with coolmankyle! They also did a Sprinter where that particular tracker (non CAN) needed an analogue driver's door trigger.
No info on M/B Sprinter but I gave them the info from Dodge Sprinter, same vehicle and said it's in the door or drill yourself a new pin switch! The idiot went to a CAN wire (yes honestly!)
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Yea, I'm extremely careful when testing wires. On anything newer its DMM ONLY. On the older cars I'll sometimes use my Blue Point computer safe test light, but only on older cars (don't feel like taking the chance). The compustar piece looked like a simple plug and play with no wire connections required.... but doubt he's going to go with that option.. lol.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 11:23 AM
If he doesn't go with that option he doesn't have ANY options. Why do YOU think it's so expensive?
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: offroadzj
Date Posted: November 01, 2011 at 1:20 PM
Oh I know... I just don't think he wants it that much... lol. I can't say that I would spend that kind of money if I had a Mercedes. I'd live with walking my *** out to start it.. lol.
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Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
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