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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 17, 2024 at 6:41 PM


Topic: focus 2000 remote

Posted By: rikkimagg
Subject: focus 2000 remote
Date Posted: April 07, 2012 at 5:15 AM

hi there I´m trying to connect aftermarket keyless remote to ford focus 2000 model it is 5 door car the driver lock have 5 wires conneget but there are 8 wires to the driver lock. I have alredy connect it but I can   only open the car with the remote I dont understand this I can lock and unlock with key and inside the car

This are the wires
BLACK/ green thin wire is to open working fine! (pin for that in lock)
BLACK/ orange thin wire should close but dosend   (pin for that in lock)

BLACK/ white thin wire not in use (no pin in lock)
BLACK/ blue thin wire not in use   (no pin in lock)
black thin wire door lock use (pin for that in lock)

WHITE/ black big wire door lock use (pin for that in lock
yellow/orange big wire door lock use (pin for that in lock)
yellow big wire not in use (no pin in lock)

I kvnow this is negative locks ! please help !



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: April 07, 2012 at 7:01 AM

Not sure if your Focus is similar to U.S. domestic models but...
If your after-market keyless entry system outputs a standard (-) .8 second
lock / unlock pulse and your Focus came with Factory power locks, you
should be able to connect the after-market systems wires directly to
these wires shown below.  No need to go into the doors, just remove the
drivers kick panel and locate these wires in the harness coming in from
the door.

Power Lock            BLACK/ red  (-)             @ drivers kick panel   
Power Unlock        BLACK / YELLOW  (-)        @ drivers kick panel

You can test these wires with a Digital Multi Meter.  Set to 20V DC,
connect the Red lead to +12V constant and the Black lead to the suspect
wire. The meter should show +12v when the lock / unlock signal is present.



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Soldering is fun!




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 07, 2012 at 10:06 AM
It's a Euro spec with deadlocking.
You have one colour wrong, yellow/orange might be yellow/black.
Now perform these two tests and ignore the driver's door.
1) See if all the doors lock/unlock from the key in both driver and front passenger door.
2) Shut all the doors, see if you can lock/unlock them using the lock push under the inner door catch.
If neither work you have a faulty GEM box but there is a work around.
First you were testing incorrectly.
Go to the GEM module above the throttle pedal.
Shut all the other doors and then look at the GEM module, it will have either two or four plugs.
In the far right should be the BLACK/ orange lock wire and the next plug in should have the BLACK/ green.
Also in the loom from the driver's door.
Strip both then close the latch on the driver's door. You should be able to work the lock and unlock from that locking button on the door.
If so with the lock catch still thrown over ground the BLACK/ orange to lock then the BLACK/ green to unlock.
If that works problem solved.
If not here's the work around.
You should have 6 lock wires on that K/E system. Let me know the colours and I'll show you how to do the work around.
Meanwhile I'll work out some diagrams and post them.
Don't work from the door, work from the GEM module.
I know I'm right I've done a gaszillion of these!
Hell I even wrote the DEI sheet for the Mondeo! Next model up with the same GEM box.
To deadlock open the "thick" yellow at the GEM module with a relay.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 07, 2012 at 10:54 AM
First diagram including deadlock if the testing works out OK
Note on both diagrams 12V+ supply is from orange / YELLOW (test, this is all from memory) at the GEM box.
Also if indicators are needed use the + blue and blue/red wires in the middle of the GEM box.ford_no1.bmp
Note I've also given you the trunk release, BLACK / YELLOW at switch going to GEM box.
In this diagram, if your K/E is a 2 wire please use the 3 diodes, else there's a chance you will fry the K/E.
If it's a 6 wire, give us the list of wires and what each are for and you will then only need 1 relay.
The work around:-ford_work_around.bmp

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 07, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Sorry, just realised forget the deadlock, as you said "big yellow wire, no pin in lock".
For your knowledge, all Euro Fords till 07
Yellow/black = lock motor wire.
WHITE/ black or WHITE/ orange = unlock motor wire.
Yellow = deadlock motor wire.
The other thin wires are connected to door trigger and total (comfort) close on Ghia models.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: rikkimagg
Date Posted: April 07, 2012 at 4:10 PM
thanks guys for your quik respond and howie you are right its yellow/black (not yellow orange. I maid typing mistake.) maybe it best if I take picture and upload it here then you can tell me how to connect the remote




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 07, 2012 at 6:39 PM
No pictures, if you must just the GEM showing the plugs.
Just do what I said and don't question it I've done literally hundreds of them.
Also you don't need to take the door down, just the glove box, 4 pozi screws underneath, plus 2 or 3 plastic screws for the lower trim, test as I said and once there you have a 10 minute job.
Disregard my earlier post about above the throttle I was thinking UK spec, right hand drive! That box in 2000 was in the same position for left AND right hand drive cars, all the Euro cars were either Spanish or German.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: rikkimagg
Date Posted: April 07, 2012 at 6:46 PM
ok thanks I do the test




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 07, 2012 at 6:50 PM
Read and understand what I've written below.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 07, 2012 at 7:38 PM
Erratum:-
I made a mistake before, forgot yours was left hand drive.
Close all doors bar the front passenger so you can get to the GEM.
Remember you MUST latch over the catch at the back of the door, flick on the ignition and the dome light will go out, remove key and it should stay off.
If you don't latch over that catch the locks will not work which I think was your original mistake.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 08, 2012 at 3:01 AM
I'm sorry but here's something else to do as well.
On the "B" (central between front and rear doors) is a catch or "door shut" built into it is the domelight trigger switch so while testing you must also wedge that open!
Use a plastic "Bojo" trim tool or a door stop or a large screwdriver or a helper, again if left it disables the locking so you can't test. Some Hondas work the same way.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 08, 2012 at 4:00 AM
I just did some terrible diagrams to point you in the right direction:-
ford_door.bmp

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: rikkimagg
Date Posted: April 08, 2012 at 5:27 AM
Hi this is my daughter car. I´m still waiting for her to come home so I can check this. She is with her boyfriend I will go to day and check the wires, Straight when see comes home Bud when I put the alarm in the car I checkt the lock by domm lock the door and disable the light. And the driver locks are working fine. locking and opening with keys and the inner lock switch works fine. The aftermarket remote is already in the car and I connect the BLACK/ green to remote close wire and BLACK/ orange to remote open wire but like I said that dosent work I also try to connect it staight to body with test lamp be tween. that dosent work neither. Why cant I open and lock with remote like when I use the key. I mean like I turn the the key to open or lock something happen in lock. Like i can make it open with my remote bud not lock. I borrow lock from partsale To try to see how it works. 3 plugs are to open close and 2 are motor?    I know there are two plucks to the GM 1 blue and 1 green. This car are made in germany.

P.s

I´m not a specilist in car elictric more to motor hehe..(I know this are just common sense) I have done this before bud in toyota and mmc and that was not a proplem or you know that is more easyere than focus




Posted By: rikkimagg
Date Posted: April 08, 2012 at 6:30 AM
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this are the remote which I´m trying to yous
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this are the lock from the partsale which are the same in the car




Posted By: rikkimagg
Date Posted: April 08, 2012 at 6:40 AM
rikkimagg wrote:

Hi this is my daughter car. I´m still waiting for her to come home so I can check this. She is with her boyfriend I will go to day and check the wires, Straight when see comes home Bud when I put the alarm in the car I checkt the lock by domm lock the door and disable the light. And the driver locks are working fine. locking and opening with keys and the inner lock switch works fine. The aftermarket remote is already in the car and I connect the BLACK/ green to remote close wire and BLACK/ orange to remote open wire but like I said that dosent work I also try to connect it staight to body with test lamp be tween. that dosent work neither. Why cant I open and lock with remote like when I use the key. I mean like I turn the the key to open or lock something happen in lock. Like i can make it open with my remote bud not lock. I borrow lock from partsale To try to see how it works. 3 plugs are to open close and 2 are motor?    I know there are two plucks to the GM 1 blue and 1 green. This car are made in germany.

P.s

I´m not a specilist in car elictric more to motor hehe..(I know this are just common sense) I have done this before bud in toyota and mmc and that was not a proplem or you know that is more easyere than focus
I messing this up a again (BLACK/ green) to open and (BLACK/ orange) to close stupid me !




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 08, 2012 at 9:15 AM
That diagram is unreadable!
How about listing the wire colours and their functions.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: rikkimagg
Date Posted: April 08, 2012 at 10:07 AM
try this one there are difrend ways to connect so you have to see the diagram I used the negative https://s1077.photobucket.com/albums/w467/rikkimagg/?action=view¤t=8-4-2012012.jpg click on the image to make bigger!

I dont have scanner at home bud I can go to my work place to scann it if this are not readable !




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 08, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Just copy the wiring list and colours from that diagram and post them, I'll do the rest.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: April 08, 2012 at 11:31 AM
A picture of the GEM module with the connectors / wires would be ideal.  That is where you will be making all your connections.

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