viper 5901 remote start

Hello everyone, I have a 1998 Honda Civic HX I'm trying to set up remote start with.

I have everything connected and even MTS mode enabled (shift-knob icon is visible on my 2way remote.) and it even indicates remote start is on.

However, when I try to RS while my car is off, it still gives me the 7 flashes (which means MTS is not enabled?) but it clearly is...I even tried to RS while the clutch engaged but it is the same problem.

Any ideas?

Do you have the neutral safety switch plugged in ?

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Yep, I plugged the toggle-switch into the brain and made sure it's on.

Do I have to do anything else with it? I notice that there is a "(-) neutral safety switch input" on one of the harnesses, do I have do do anything with that?


I also successfully learned tach.

Neutral safety switch (-) need to go to the hand brake.

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Right, sorry, I was thinking about the hood pin input. I don't have that plugged in so I don't think it should matter.

Maybe it's my H3 harness wiring? I have

I have all the H3 harness red wires connected to my 12V+ source. (H3/2, H3/6, H3/9) Is this incorrect?

Ok so I changed the 3-1 settings to automatic mode and it's remote starting fine when the clutch is engaged. I think I might just keep it like this but I would need to bypass the clutch.

I just need to connect the (-) 200mA starter output to the clutch wire right? Where would I find this wire?

Bypassing the safety features IS NOT a good idea.

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I rather not but it seems like I have to. I got it to work on manual and automatic mode but both require the clutch to engage.

Is there any other way to get this to work without bypassing the clutch? Everything else works fine.

you need a relay to bypass clutch and use status wire to trigger it

OK, here is the issue.  You have a Viper remote start system that is manual transmission safe, as long as
it is properly installed and programmed.  That means that the Viper 5901 is designed to remotely start a
vehicle with a manual transmission.

Here is how it works.  You are driving your car and want to stop and park it.  If you wish to use the remote
start feature when you drive the car next, you must go thru a "Manual Transmission Reservation" setup
procedure that will insure that the vehicle is in neutral when you exit the car and that the doors & trunk
remain closed during the parked interim period.  This is handled properly by the Viper when it is programmed
to Transmission Mode = Manual ( Menu 3, Item 1, Opt 1 ).  This is the default option as the Viper comes from
the factory and must be programmed to Automatic if and only if the Viper is being installed into a Auto Trans
vehicle.  Viper sets the default this way for liability reasons, forcing you to actually make the change. 

For your Viper installation to work and be safe, there are several things that must be done.
1.  The Door Triggers must be connected so that the Viper can monitor all the vehicle access points.
2.  You must run the Viper in Engine Checking = Tach Mode ( Menu 3, Item 2, Opt 4 ).
3.  You must leave the Viper in Transmission Mode = Manual ( Menu 3, Item 1, Opt 1 )
4.  You must find a way to manually bypass the vehicles clutch interlock switch only during a remote start.

Anything less than the above violates the Viper install guide warnings and creates a very serious danger
to anyone near the vehicle.  Additionally, forum rules prevent members from supplying info that would
create an un-safe condition, etc. 

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Well said Kreg

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Also BLACK/ white Neutral Safety wire needs to be hooked up to the hand brake wire which is RED / black (-) in the driver kick panel. Door trigger should be in same harness (-) light GREEN/ red.

Tach can be found inside the car at a blue connector above the fusebox. Bottom row, kinda centered, and is blue. There should be a red wire to the right of it.

As for the clutch bypass, You need to move the purple starter wire from the viper off the BLACK/ white wire of the Civic to the BLACK/ Red at the clutch relay. The clutch relay is to the left of the fusebox should be right in front of you when looking for it. it also has a thick BLACK/ white wire or 2 in the same plug.

Flobee, I have my brain connected to the tach behind the cluster and to the hand brake wire where the handbrake actually resides. Mine is actually RED / green.

I am not too sure what you mean with the clutch bypass instructions. Do I connect the purple viper starter wire to the BLACK/ red wire located where the BLACK/ white wires are? And should I diode isolate these wires?

Thanks

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Yep, I plugged the toggle-switch into the brain and made sure it's on.

Do I have to do anything else with it? I notice that there is a "(-) neutral safety switch input" on one of the harnesses, do I have do do anything with that?


I also successfully learned tach.

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I had to ground that wire on mine to get the toggle switch to work. Mine is automatic though.

The BLACK/ red wire is not located in the ignition harness, its located in a molex plug to the left of the dash. The molex plug happens to have BLACK/ whites in it also. You only want to connect the Purple viper wire to the BLACK/ Red and not the BLACK/ white at all.