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506t and 509u to viper 5704

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=133428
Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 2:55 PM


Topic: 506t and 509u to viper 5704

Posted By: stsniper
Subject: 506t and 509u to viper 5704
Date Posted: January 25, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Hi,
I have Viper 5704 installed and i would like to add 506t and 509u to it.
From my understanding 506t comes with 3pin "y connector" which goes to brain and then the other two ends i plug in the shock sensor and audio sensor. For the 509u, it plugs straight to the brain to 4pin mux port? Please correct me if Im wrong. I haven't ordered sensors yet, so i can not look at them.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 26, 2013 at 12:01 AM
Yes but you will need diode separation on the trigger leads, should explain on the installation instructions.
NOTE; IMO a waste of time, you will spend a day balancing the sensors when a single 508d will give you better coverage.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: stsniper
Date Posted: January 26, 2013 at 12:10 AM
Thanks for help, but the diode would be needed only if.I.would.want to know the difference between zones when alarm.triggers, but if not then I can just connect without problems? I was thinking of proximity but It will always trigger with and without the reason, so that's why I was thinking to get other sensors. Please correct me if.I'm.wrong. I just don't want it come on at night when the snow will cover up the car or something




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 26, 2013 at 12:17 AM
I generally find that the more sensors you have the more false alarms you get.
If you don't diode, you won't even know what triggered the alarm.
I usually suggest a 508d even though it's a PITA to adjust because it has universal application with greater coverage, e.g. to trigger the shock or glass break you would already have had the 508d issue a warn away so what's the point of them?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: stsniper
Date Posted: January 26, 2013 at 12:30 AM
Haha I read the exact phrase somewhere when I was researching on sensors. I understand that 508 is a really good idea, but look.even if the outside is set to.the lowest possible and we get an.inch or so if snow? Would it trigger the alarm? And back to diode, I wouldn't only know the difference between the shock and glass sensor I understand that, but I would need the bitwriter to.set up different zones between shock and glass? I definitely don't really want to.buy.it,.I'll be.alright just seeing zone 2 has been triggered. If either no.Windows.broken then it's shock, I.highly doubt someone will.come.and try know in the window with a key to see it the car has sound sensor




Posted By: stsniper
Date Posted: January 26, 2013 at 12:32 AM
In.no way I'm trying to argue or proof anything, just trying to figure if it's worth soldering the diode and stuff and the phrase was " e.g. to trigger the shock or glass break you would already have had the 508d issue a warn away so what's the point of them?"




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 26, 2013 at 12:43 AM
OK, we don't get your extremes but I've had 3-6" of snow on my car 3 times this week, no falsies with a 508d (sensitivity set low), the car deadlocks anyway.
All I'm trying to say is that the extra sensors are a waste of your time and money for what return?
False alarms?
And the old school Clifford R/S never fails. I hard wired everything including 3 x Ignition 2.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: stsniper
Date Posted: January 26, 2013 at 12:57 AM
The 508 plugs straight to brain also ? I think if I remember correctly, four pin goes to brain and another three have to be tapped to something. Because from what I've read people are cursing 508 that it always false triggers etc, that's why I was even thinking of getting it.
What would be the place to mount it? Somewhere on the headliner in the middle?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 26, 2013 at 1:05 AM
Yes is the answer to all the points you raised.
Each sensor is a PITA to set up.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: stsniper
Date Posted: January 26, 2013 at 1:14 AM
Alright, thanks for your help, I'll read more about the proximity, I just don't want to.end up bypassing it at the end if I won't be able to adjust the way it won't false trigger on every person that walks by. And by the way you said its a.pita to adjust 506 and 509, 506 can pretty much go.all.the way, but test it with with a pop can not far from the car and see if it will.trigger. and 509 just go to.a~pillars facing the back of the Car? Not sure if.there are any other adjustment but if there is, it can be set to max, since all.the.widows will be closed etc ?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 26, 2013 at 3:44 AM
509, isn't that the ultrasonic sensor? If so, they are a European idea, pain to fit we stopped using them around the early 90s when prox sensors came along.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: drewy1322
Date Posted: January 29, 2013 at 2:03 PM
I know the Viper 5904 install manual says "Note: Sensor ports 1 and 2 cannot support sensor 508D due to current limitations. These ports are also constant power and ground connections"

I would check with the Viper 5704 install manual but I would guess it's the same.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM
You CAN plug them both in, just run the 508d ground to the orange GWA at H1/6.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: triplejjj
Date Posted: April 16, 2014 at 7:20 PM
I know this an older post but for future readers I would like to add, I have the 508d and it's set perfectly. Might as well give them a warn away as opposed to breaking the window and then getting an alert with a glass break sensor. I see no need for both either.
With the 508d I get a warn away if I'm about six inches from the window and if I put my face
to it the alarm will trigger.





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