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cliffnet wizard pro for avantguard 5.1

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: June 07, 2024 at 4:20 AM


Topic: cliffnet wizard pro for avantguard 5.1

Posted By: sunlitcomet
Subject: cliffnet wizard pro for avantguard 5.1
Date Posted: April 26, 2013 at 11:55 PM

my cliffnet wizard pro is old like version 1.** and does not carry avantguard 5 configurations and when i bought the interface from sonics last year i accidentally go the consumer kit and did not notice cause i had it still sitting in the packing box for three months. any one with a link to the current pro so i dont need to buy another interface kit.



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 2:22 AM
You're referring to V 2.2.
The kit isn't compatible with ANY G5 product.
You can't use the Pro version for tach learning and then it glitches the unit.


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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: sunlitcomet
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 2:35 AM
well i had already has the system working with tach set by dash mounted coder when installed a while back and using the current consumer version i recalibrated it to allow for some changes in the engine puter. at that point the engine would crank continuously while at the same time the engine wanted to die from loosing volts during crank while initiating with the software after actuating ignition power button. when back in to the coded key programming method and reset rpm. now when i press the button it starts runs for 2 seconds and shuts down with no other attempt as if press the starter button a second time. so at this point remote start is useless.

one other issue. smart window 4 is on. manual door switch control moves window either rear window up and down as direct. but if you manually control thru software buttons left window is fine the right one has the opposite direct as door switch so when i arm the system the right window open left closed. if i remote vent left open right closes. all this while manual door switch control is normal.




Posted By: sunlitcomet
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 2:39 AM
also noticed the help file included with the consumer version has some titles but all the text is missingposted_image




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 3:00 AM
I do all the programming manually the only use for the Wiz is crank time and then it can take up to 50 attempts to succeed.
The window problem, you've wired it the wrong way round, also make sure you go directly to the motor wires in each door.
A 530t beats Smart Win 4 every time.
What car?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: sunlitcomet
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 3:08 AM
50 attempts for the program to get the actual cranking time set correctly? wow. and for the window which area is wired backwards you think the wire to the door switch outputs or the wires to the motor inputs? the door switches make the window go in the right direction as controlled by the sw4 relays but anything other then door switches the right one is backward.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 3:14 AM
Motor wires. Sorry, have to go to work.
Final note, Wiz is great for G4 product, lousy for G5.
When DEI absorbed Clifford they let go of the original software author because they wanted to push the frankly inferior Bitwriter.
Unfortunately there were software rewrites on the G5 that the Wiz couldn't handle and now no one at DEI could update the Wiz software.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: sunlitcomet
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 3:16 AM
will look into it thanks.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 3:25 AM
Sorry, worthwhile changing around motor and switch wires on that window, try motor wires first, if it doesn't work or blows a fuse, then try switch wires.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 3:27 AM
That story by the way is hearsay from the then UK importers but it has a ring of truth and fits the known facts/problems.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: sunlitcomet
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 3:30 AM
here in the bay area of california dealers don't even know about cliffnet wizard as in never heard of it. Some dealer. that's why i don't let others touch my stuff.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 5:10 AM
DEI have been progressively killing Clifford since the takeover.
Rather ironic really since Clifford started in the Bay area.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: sunlitcomet
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM
i can believe it but damn i love the clifford products.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 27, 2013 at 1:41 PM
Still seemingly better built but unfortunately not the features of say a 5704 Viper.
The AG 5.1, last of the old style, rock solid product.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.





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