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I installed the Viper 5704 with Expresskits DBALL2. I checked all the wirings. It all correct per installation guides. It saids just have to connect the ignition and starter wires. And they DBALL2 will take care of the rest. But the DBALL keep flashing RED / ORANGE / green and refuse to program. It needs to stay solid red per instruction. Can someone help? Thanks

I think you should list your connections so we can get a picture of what has been done.
Connected for Type 2, correct?

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Type 2. I just did exactly per instruction for Type 2 installation manual for DBDALL2. I just noticed that I grounded the neutral switch from the remote starter if that the case then should I ground hand brake connection from the DBALL2 connection pin 1(BLACK/ white) 12pin harness or I have to connect from remote starter to the DBALL2 without grounding it directly. Need to try again tomorrow. Don't know if this will fix the problem. I use the DBALL on 2010 highlander. It worked on the first try. Not this one, it gives me such a headache.

Could the CAN Hi and Lo be connected the wrong way round?

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Nothing is work. Is this possible that this DBALL2 is defective or flash incorrectly? I bought this brand new not even refurbished. Also connection is not required on dot line ----. I did make all the connection even the dotted line yesterday but I corrected it today. I don't know if if make any different. But the minute the plug the D2D harness which is the last connection. It keeps flashing RED / GREEN/ orange instead of solid red ready for programing. I can hit the lock/unlock button on the Viper remote. I can hear the siren chirp, signal received from the Viper Brain Unit. But not the door lock not even lock/unlock.

BRX pin 4 (Light Green) to BRX pin 10 on DBALL2 12pin (Yellow/Black) harness
BTX pin 16 (Pink) to BT pin 11 on DBALL 2 12pin (ORANGE / Black) harness
Can High pin 6 (violet)to pin 3(Tan) 14pin harness
Can Low pin 14 (Red) to pin 3(Tan/Black) 14pin harness

From the dball tan/black is typically can high and tan is can low. You have them reversed in your last post. If that is how they are connected then that could be your problem.

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Yes, tan is low tan/black is high as I posted earlier you've reversed the CAN signal wires.

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Sorry guys, I posted it wrong. Yes Tan is Can Low and Tan/Black is Can High. I have the right connection but posted it wrong here. Can you guys confirm that I don't have to connect any dotted blue connection per DBALL2 installation guide if the connection is D2D as noted in the guide. Thanks

None needed back to possibly faulty DB-ALL.

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That's what i think too. Must be a bad DBALL.
The DBALL connection are much simpler than PKALL.
Base on connection per guide. The only thing I need to connect from the RS unit is +12, ground, parking light wire. And the only wire you use from the heavy gauge is red,RED / black, RED / white to 12V on the vehicle. Pink ignition 1 to DBALL 12 pin harness which is pin 7 (gray/black). BTX and BRX and Can High & Low already been triple checked on the connections. What else could be wrong here if it is not a bad DBALL

Again, I would ask you to post all of your wire connections.
You posted that you connected the ignition and starter wires. The way I read it, in D2D mode, is no starter wire is needed. Only ignition wire from Remote Start to DB-ALL2.

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The flashing light sequence tells me it may not have been programmed properly

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Another concern is that if we not need to connect the dotted blue line connections if we are doing D2D. Then there is no connection on black harness 10pin. This is the first connection that has to plugged in DBALL during program per programming instructions because there would be no connection at all to this black harness 10pin if we don't have to connect any of the dotted blue line connections

Exactly Harris, in the troubleshooting page 13. There is no flash pattern like this. It keeps going RED / GREEN/ orange. There is no such pattern per guide on page 13 of DBALL instructions

Yes I did connect the dotted blue line connections, but then I removed all of that connections include the starter wire. Only the ignition wire from DBALL2 to RS brain. And I only connect the solid black bold connection. One more concern, the neutral switch from RS unit to be connect to hand brake to the DBALL2. If this connection is not required, then the BLACK/ white from RS unit for neutral switch still need to be grounded right?

Connect as shown yellow/black from DB-ALL to BLACK/ white on unit.
As an aside I'm not in Florida but London UK, long story but I do mainly Europeans and Japanese/Korean except the odd Jeep and I often find that apart from VW with which DEI have the most CAN related experience, some DB-ALL and DB-ALL2 functions don't work such as parking brake, lights, hood switches.
The simple answer is to hardwire them so quite honestly it makes no difference if you take that BLACK/ white from the R/S to the DB-ALL OR to ground, it wouldn't make the DB-ALL fail.
Another point but probably contentious is that as far as I'm concerned if the customer is prepared to lose a key there's absolutely no point in using a CAN module on most Japanese/Korean.
They are so easy to hardwire and at least that way any problem is quickly checked and rectified if you're an experienced installer.
OK, old school but that's the way I do it.

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Harry stop confusing the poor man.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

talked to the tech guy at DEI. when you see this pattern. The DBALL 2 has not been program like we are running a computer without a windows operating system. This is pattern we will see. Wow, what a waste of time and no wonder we don't find that in the instruction manual for that flash pattern. Harris, I did the installation on ES350 2010 and using the PKALL. I did most of the hard wiring and it works beautifully. I tried to cut labor on this RX350 then I get nailed because of the bad DBALL. I will get you guys posted after order another DBALL

Sorry, been there done that hence my first post.
6 months ago to a colleague...
"DB-ALL isn't working"....
"Didn't you program it?"
"Didn't you?"

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You can't flash yet until DEI loaded your firmware. I don't know why this guy buy this item with firmware loaded. DEI has to do that then you can flash it.

The joys of not buying correctly, also if it's a DB-ALL rather than a DB-ALL 2 it's old stock.
Not sure what you mean I flash them myself with no problems.

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IT is a DBALL2. But DBALL or DBALL2 has the same installation guide and both will work on this car. Wrong buy yes:-)

The new DBALL2 that I ordered from a different seller works like a charm. DBALL2 cuts of the wiring efforts. As long as it programmed correctly. It works out nicely. Thanks for all the inputs.