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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 15, 2024 at 12:51 PM


Topic: automatic sunroof closure with alarm

Posted By: leigh.white
Subject: automatic sunroof closure with alarm
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:22 PM

The sunroof in my car has fully open and vent positions, it is hard wired with no one touch function, all wires to switch rest at ground except 12v supply, how would I use a window closure module to shut the roof from either of these positions? I can see how to wire for one way to shut as you would with a window but not sure how to do it for both ways? Thanks for any help.



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Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:23 PM
Sorry ment to say its a Peugeot 306 2000 yr model




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:29 PM
You can only use a window module if the close from open and close from vent has the same switch direction.
You need to find the motor wires and see if the same wire goes to 12 volts+ on slide close and vent close.
Can't help anymore, don't go near Peugeot/Renault/Citroen/Fiat to keep my sanity.

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Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM
No it uses different switch directions. This is what I thought. Is there any other way of doing it?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:33 PM
No because being a Peugeot it wont be logical and even something like Autodata won't help because they changed colours every three months.

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Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:34 PM
Ha ha I work for Peugeot




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:37 PM
Then why don't you look up the circuit diagram, working for Peugeot would make me lose my sanity quicker than Spurs turn round their managers.
Having said that I've been using a new 3008 recently and I was very impressed, just waiting for the electrics to fail in the next two years.
Build quality and logical design were never French ideas.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:40 PM
Yep I have the diagram but as you said the switch needs to be operated in diff directions for full closure and vent closure so really not sure how to go about wiring it?

2years? More like 2 months for it to go wrong! Ha ha




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:45 PM
You obviously know the reason why French cars are CRAP?
CitroenRenaultAndPeugeot.
Joking aside a single closer for two windows such as the DEI 529t will do it, just use one direction as one window the other direction as the other window but you'll need two outputs so say goodbye to Cobra, Meta etc. and use a Viper/Clifford etc.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:50 PM
So using the ground when armed output is no good then, I would have liked it to shut all in one once I've hit the lock button-not fussy am I.yeh I've got the viper 5204v




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 4:58 PM
And you couldn't link either aux to arm they would work against each other.
Know that I've a Viper 5906.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 5:01 PM
So would just have to manually select from the remote which way I want it to shut then. Hmm well atleast I have my answer I guess




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 5:04 PM
How much did u pay for your 5906 and where did u get it from?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 5:07 PM
You'd feel sick but we import 100 every month and we are about to enter a legal battle with CAS and DEI so I can't say anymore.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 27, 2014 at 5:15 PM
Ah nice!
Also with my viper when I use the remote to lock/unlock sometimes it's not always instant, there can be at times a second or 2 delay before the alarm does anything , does this seem right to you?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 28, 2014 at 12:48 AM
Yes, normal on Viper with the 2 way.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 28, 2014 at 3:20 PM
Do you think that's a bit poor considering the original French remote works instantly?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 28, 2014 at 3:42 PM
I think it's very poor considering the old Clifford G4 and G5 worked instantly.
If Clifford was still an independent company nobody outside the US would have either heard of or cared less about viper.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 28, 2014 at 3:48 PM
Yep clifford was all I ever new about with aftermarket alarms, then I stumbled across viper on the Internet, also see lots about compustar and Excalibur but these seem to be more so from America




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 28, 2014 at 3:51 PM
Compustar is the best, equal in build quality to old Clifford but having said that considering the amount we install never had a Viper go wrong, Lousy quality wiring, slow operation but doesn't go wrong.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: May 28, 2014 at 4:01 PM
I wish now that is have gone with compustar, a bit late now after parting with £250 for the viper :-(




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: June 05, 2014 at 3:56 PM
Good evening

A couple more questions if you would be so kind

Any hints/tips on setting up the 508d from a beginners point of view?

Also wiring the headlights to flash when's the alarm is triggered, can I use the 200ma which also does the horn honk feature with the horn honk already in use, Or is there a better way to do this?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 05, 2014 at 5:20 PM
First question:-
Yes follow the instructions and have patience.
Second question:-
No way Jose, you need either one or two relays depending on the number of lo or hi beam circuits at the switch, 200mAmps to NEG to run one or two 10amp POS, forget it without relays.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: June 05, 2014 at 5:25 PM
The relay I'm using draws approx 150ma for the horn honk, is it ok to use a second relay off the horn honk for the headlight flash or is this too much for the one 200ma output from alarm?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 05, 2014 at 5:31 PM
Second and possibly third required in case you have two separate wires at the switch.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: leigh.white
Date Posted: June 05, 2014 at 5:36 PM
So the 200ma negative output from the alarm is ok to hook up to 2 or 3 relays without doing any damage to the brain? In parallel?

I'm pretty sure it's just the one wire from the switch for both headlights. So one additional relay to the one already fitted for horn/honk?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: June 05, 2014 at 5:41 PM
I wouldn't. Use an aux.
Or tape the white indicator output before the splitting diodes. No more now I've been on the road since 5:00am.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.





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