python 5106p manual trans 97 accord
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: python 5106p manual trans 97 accord
Posted By: linkarmy09
Subject: python 5106p manual trans 97 accord
Date Posted: July 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM
so ive succesfully installed my third alarm and everything seems to work just great. This is the first wiht a manual trans. The only issue im having is i am unable to enable the MTS mode. Hopeing someone on here has a similar model or mabye DEI that has the same method who can clarify me the correct steps. This is directly from the manual.
1. With the engine running, press the foot brake and set the parking
brake.
For Pit Stop or Turbo Timer mode (to leave the engine running
after arming), open the driver door.
2. Release the foot brake.
3. Within 20 seconds of foot brake release, press any command
button on the remote, after 20 seconds return to Step 2 (For Turbo
Timer Mode, press the optional dash mounted activation button
or send the Timer Mode command.
4. The parking lights flash 5 times to confirm MTS mode is enabled
and the remote start activates the ignition outputs.
5. Turn Off and remove the key from the ignition switch, the engine
remains running.
6. Exit the vehicle, close all the doors and arm the system.
7. The engine turns off. If the door is opened in Step 1 then the
engine continues to run.
So someone please eligthen me. Where im stuck is in step 3 it says "Afer 20 seconds return to step 2" step 2 is to release the foot break. How am i going to release it when i have not pressed it???
Step 4 is the 5 light flash with i dont get this leads me to think my problem is somewhere before step 4. If on step 3 i press the remote start buttonLights flash two times and i enter what i belive is pit stop mode, i am able to open my door and close it arm it (engine still running) for the "Pit stop"
Also i know the remote startt is working properly because if i switch to automatic mode the car start no problem.
Any help would be gratly appreciated.
Replies:
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 18, 2014 at 5:33 PM
1) Yes
2) Yes but I press footbrake again before:-
3) Press remote start, remove key,engine still running, exit vehicle, close door, press lock, engine should shut down.
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Posted By: linkarmy09
Date Posted: July 18, 2014 at 7:17 PM
howie ll wrote:
1) Yes
2) Yes but I press footbrake again before:-
3) Press remote start, remove key,engine still running, exit vehicle, close door, press lock, engine should shut down.
So 1: press foot break, engage hand break and then release foot break.
2: within 20 seconds of foot break release press any key on remote
3:after 20 seconds press and release foot break again.
IIs that right, after that it should flash 5 times
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 19, 2014 at 1:48 AM
Did you read what I wrote?
Bring vehicle to a halt on foot brake.
Operate hand brake, gear to neutral.
Press Remote start button.
Remove key from ignition, engine still running.
Exit vehicle press on, doors lock engine stops.
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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: catback
Date Posted: July 19, 2014 at 11:59 AM
linkarmy09 wrote:
3:after 20 seconds press and release foot break again.
You can safely ignore that confusing instruction. What they mean is if you wait longer than 20 seconds after doing step 2 that you have to do it again.
Other than that howie has it down, although the manual states any button on the remote will work not just the remote start button.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 19, 2014 at 1:07 PM
Maybe I was wrong, I never read the manual, always thought it was the R/S button.
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Posted By: linkarmy09
Date Posted: July 20, 2014 at 3:06 PM
I tried what howie suggested. But by pressing the retome star button I get only two flashes and we I Cole door and lock it stays on (pit stop mode)
Posted By: catback
Date Posted: July 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM
Is the brake shutdown wire connected to the brake switch? In automatic mode does the remote start shutdown when you step on the brake?
Is your neutral safety switch wire (BLACK/ white) connected to the e-brake?
Posted By: linkarmy09
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 7:39 AM
Yes when car is in automatic the pressing the break shuts down the car and when attempting to remote start the car with the hand break not engaged does not allow the car to start so they are both working.
Posted By: catback
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 9:11 AM
What engine checking mode are you utilizing? Manual transmission mode requires tachometer with a learned tach.
Posted By: linkarmy09
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 11:17 AM
You know at first i did have the wrong cable so i got the remote started in automatic with the virtual tech mode. Later that week did some research found the correct tach cable and now it is connecrted so i attempted to remote start in manual mode.
I do belive the learning procedure for the tach mode is just to turn it on the car and let ir run for couple minutes? Someone correct if im wrong...
and could it be possible that the alarm still thinks its virtual tach mode? I guess i can remove fuse to alarm to reset it.
Posted By: catback
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 11:28 AM
linkarmy09 wrote:
You know at first i did have the wrong cable so i got the remote started in automatic with the virtual tech mode. Later that week did some research found the correct tach cable and now it is connecrted so i attempted to remote start in manual mode.
I do belive the learning procedure for the tach mode is just to turn it on the car and let ir run for couple minutes? Someone correct if im wrong...
and could it be possible that the alarm still thinks its virtual tach mode? I guess i can remove fuse to alarm to reset it.
Removing the fuse or power to these units does not reset anything (which is actually a good thing).
The tach learning process is outlined in the installation manual but essential goes:
To learn the tach signal:
1. Start the vehicle with the key.
2. Within 5 seconds, press and hold the Valet (Control) button.
3. After 3 seconds the system LED will light constant when the tach signal is learned.
4. Release the Valet (Control) button.
Learning the tach may or may not automatically change engine checking mode to tachometer.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 11:29 AM
You're wrong, start engine, within 5 seconds press control centre button after a second or so LED should light up.
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Paths crossing again?  ------------- Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 11:31 AM
Never seen a 5601, doesn't it have manual/auto selection in the menu?
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Posted By: catback
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 1:02 PM
That would be 5106 and yes it does have auto/manual in the programming menu.
Your following me 
Posted By: linkarmy09
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 2:21 PM
ok i just looke at the manual and yea catback has it right, will give it a try after work today. An other thing i just noticed and not sure if it has anything to do. When arming the alrm i get the regular beep and couple seconds(4-5 sec) later i get an other beep, its not like when unlocking where you get a beep beep.
Posted By: linkarmy09
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 2:23 PM
or is there any other way to reset alarm brain, not like ive changed or modified any of the setting yet.
Posted By: catback
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 4:00 PM
linkarmy09 wrote:
ok i just looke at the manual and yea catback has it right, will give it a try after work today. An other thing i just noticed and not sure if it has anything to do. When arming the alrm i get the regular beep and couple seconds(4-5 sec) later i get an other beep, its not like when unlocking where you get a beep beep.
The second chirp is a zone bypass notification, close your doors and trunk and you won't get this notification if you hooked up your triggers right.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 4:15 PM
And if it's a domelight delay problem then you can eliminate it in the settings.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: linkarmy09
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 6:12 PM
ok well all hood doors trunk are closed and dome supervision is currently disconnected because of some feature modifications i will do. what other zones can it be?
and regarding the tach learing i was unable to get the light on my control center and i was looking at the manual and it shows that the engine checking mode must be selected. Opt1 is virtual tech Opt2 is voltage opt3 is off and opt4 is tachmoeter. I did not have enough time on my break to change those but i guess i must change to "opt4 tachmeter" then do the learning procedure. will try that after work.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 6:16 PM
Sorry assumed you read the instructions before attempting to program tach.
Shock sensor?
Proximity sensor?
Disconnect doors, green, trunk blue, and hood grey one at a time, closed doesn't mean a thing test wise, you might have a faulty switch pretty common on Hondas of that age.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: linkarmy09
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 6:21 PM
hmm seems like i have plenty of testing to be done. Well might not be able to do everything today but will get things tested and will get back with you guys, hopefully this will solve my issue and maybe help someone else in the same situation as i am. Definitely appreciate all the help.
Posted By: catback
Date Posted: July 21, 2014 at 6:45 PM
Testing which zone is bypassed is actually pretty easy, when the system is armed and does that extra chirp to notify you of a bypassed zone check the LED light it'll flash a number of times corresponding to the zone number that is currently being bypassed.
Posted By: linkarmy09
Date Posted: July 24, 2014 at 8:56 AM
Well guys I'm back. After going back to check everything I found my problem. I feel somewhat stupid because this is something I should of double checked.
So my hood pin wire and my tach wire were switched, witch is why my alarm would give me that extra chirp and why I was unable to get my tach input.
After correcting wires, set the setting to manual and tachometer input, followed you guys advise I am able to activate my mode and use my remote start.
I definitely want to thank this forum for all the support and help that is provided.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 24, 2014 at 9:32 AM
Glad you were honest enough to admit so glad to help.
I have to tell you that IMO 70% of mistakes are wiring errors followed by 29% or maybe connected, not fully reading the instructions.
1% or less, faulty product.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: linkarmy09
Date Posted: July 24, 2014 at 9:50 AM
Yes this being my 3rd install I think I've learned plenty. I am only doing this as a hobby, I like electronics, so no harm done and I'm pretty sure my next install will go smoother.
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