viper 5806v rs, 2009 legacy
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Topic: viper 5806v rs, 2009 legacy
Posted By: ne0031
Subject: viper 5806v rs, 2009 legacy
Date Posted: December 21, 2014 at 12:02 PM
I've been a car audio guy and general electronics tech for a couple of decades, but this install has me flustered. I'm attempting to install the 5806 only for remote start. I've combed many forums looking for information and have integrated that into what I've tried below. I also have a 791 bypass.
What I've done:
5806 RS 10 pin
2 RED / blk - nothing
3 pnk/blk - nothing (did try connected to 6 as noted by one user, cranks when key is in run)
4 pnk/wht - blue + ign 2
5 red - parallel with 10
6 grn - wht/blk + key starter
7 vio - wht/blk + to starter
8 org - nothing
9 RED / wht - parallel with 10
10 pnk - grn + ign 1 so 10, 9, and 5 are tied here
Also, I have the following on the aux connector:
13 blk/wht - ground
17 pnk - to 791 blue - bypass
on the main:
1 red - +12
2 blk - ground (all grounds are at the same location)
3 brn - siren (I had to connect this to make programming changes)
I figured out that I had to connect the neutral safety switch and it is plugged in. I also figured out that I had to ground the door switch to program the unit.
The car works fine with the key. I've also tried remote starting with the key in the ignition just in case the bypass isn't working. The 5806 makes wonderful relay clicking noises when rs is pushed.
Remote start diags:
The unit reports neutral safety shutdown and low battery after attempting to remote start. Flipping the neutral switch results in nothing when rs is pushed. Ungrounding #13 results in the same. To me, when the switch is on and 13 grounded, the unit thinks all is ok.
Battery voltage is 12.6. I've also tried with an external jump charger attached with no change, so I don't believe the low voltage code.
All connections are made on the steering column at this point. If/when I get a solution, I'll replace the OEM harness and tie the appropriate remote start connections in above the brake pedal.
Replies:
Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: December 21, 2014 at 4:52 PM
https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.aspx
Heavy Gauge harness:
Red, RED / White, RED / Black (2, 5, & 9)to 12 volt constant, White(+), also Red from 6 pin harness.
Pink to Ignition 1, (10) Green (+)
Pink/White to Ignition 2,(4) Blue (+)
Orange to Accessory,(8) Yellow(+)
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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: December 21, 2014 at 5:02 PM
Some changes :
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2 RED / blk - White @ ignition harness
3 pnk/blk - not used
4 pnk/wht - Blue @ ignition harness
5 red - White @ ignition harness
6 grn - wht/blk + key starter ___\ cut this wire
7 vio - wht/blk + to starter ----- /
8 org - Yellow @ ignition harness
9 RED / wht - White @ ignition harness
10 pnk - Green @ ignition harness
13 blk/wht - ground OK
17 pnk - to 791 blue - bypass No. Use the Dark Blue (-) Status Output wire
P.S. Mr Smoke beat me to the post....  ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 21, 2014 at 6:48 PM
a 791 wont be so reliable in cold weather. use a data style bypass
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2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
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Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: December 21, 2014 at 7:06 PM
P.S. Mr Smoke beat me to the post....
Finally!
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Posted By: ne0031
Date Posted: December 22, 2014 at 8:47 AM
Bingo. Works like a charm! Thanks guys!
Now, for the bonus question.... after starting the car with the rs, and inserting the key after getting in, turning the key off does NOT shut off the car. I have to turn it off with the remote.
Is this normal??
Matt
Posted By: smokeman1
Date Posted: December 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM
Are you saying that you JUST put the key in, turn it to on and then off? without stepping on the brake pedal to shift into drive?
Is the brake shutdown wire connected?
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Posted By: ne0031
Date Posted: December 22, 2014 at 1:27 PM
Brake shutdown it was. Now it's operating normally.
Thanks!
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