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4205v, blowing fuses

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Topic: 4205v, blowing fuses

Posted By: kowen14
Subject: 4205v, blowing fuses
Date Posted: January 16, 2015 at 11:06 PM

Whenever I start up the remote start it blows one of the fuses on the power wire. (30a). I have both of the power wires connected directly to the battery. Is that my issue?   Thanks. (First remote start I've done)



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Posted By: davep.
Date Posted: January 16, 2015 at 11:50 PM
No, the power wire connection is not the issue, you've connected one of the 4 heavy wire outputs to something that is grounded. One of the fuses supplies two of the outputs, and the power to the module. The other fuse is for the other two outputs. It's possible to figure this out with a meter, but current DEI installation guides no longer tell you enough to figure it out without testing.

Begin with the make, model and year of the car your installing it into please.




Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 16, 2015 at 11:53 PM
2007 Dodge Ram 1500
Dball2 along with the viper 4205v




Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 16, 2015 at 11:57 PM
I didn't install the the hood pin Switch to the gray wire, would that cause this? Is the hood pin switch necessary?




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: January 17, 2015 at 8:07 PM

While the Hood Pin is not mandatory and it's non-use will not cause any problems ( including the one you are now experiencing ),
it is a nice safety feature and highly recommended.

Did you wire the truck as a Type 3c or a Type 4 ( DB-ALL2 install guide )?



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Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 17, 2015 at 8:23 PM
I wired it with type 4. How exactly should I wire the parking lights? Change the jumper to negative then the negative parking light wire? White wire on 4205v to WHITE/ light green wire (-) parking light wire? Thanks




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: January 17, 2015 at 8:47 PM
If you want to use the (-) Parking Light wire, you will need a relay and a 1130 ohm resistor.  Here is the wiring :
Relay Pin 86 to Viper White Parking Light Output ( with jumper in the + position )
Relay Pin 85 to chassis ground
Relay Pin 87 to chassis ground through 1130 ohm resistor
Relay Pin 30 to  WHITE/ lt. green (-)  @ headlight switch or cluster, small gray plug, pin 5
Relay Pin 87a not used - insulate

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Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 17, 2015 at 9:43 PM
Perfect thanks. Any idea to why the fuse is blowing on one of the power wires?




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: January 18, 2015 at 3:34 AM
No.  Yours is a pretty straight forward install with no big power draws.  Perhaps if you listed all the connections we might see something.

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Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 18, 2015 at 3:00 PM
viper 4205v

primary harness used wires
h1/8 ground ---> wire grounded to chassis

remote start harness (h3)
h3/1 BLACK/ white neutral safety switch ---> grounded to chassis
h3/2 violet/white Tach input ---> dball2 tach output violet/white
h3/3 brown + brake shutdown input ---> dball2 brake output gray
h3/4 gray hood pin ----> hood pin connected

heavy guage relay

1 red 30A high ---->connected to battery
3 red 30a high -----> connected to battery
5 purple output to starter ----> dball2 starter input voilet wire ---->start pin on ignition switch
6 pink output to primary ignition circuit ---->dball2 ignition input pink wire ----->ignition pink/white on ignition switch

sat harness
1 blue 200ma status output ----> dball2 bllue/white gwr

door lock
1 light blue unlock output--->dball2 blue unlock input
3 green lock output ---> dball2 green lock input


dball2
blue connector

ft can high tan/black---->WHITE/ orange ignition switch
ft can low tan ------> white ignition switch

red 12v connected to battery
black grounded to chassis

red connector

multiplex output violet/green connected to multiplex output violet brown---->mux violet/brown on ignition switch

i think thats everythihng





Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 18, 2015 at 4:11 PM
the starter is negative not positive

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 18, 2015 at 4:28 PM
Ted
What do I need to change then? On the dball2 instructions it said + start pin on the ignition switch.




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 18, 2015 at 6:54 PM
do you have an ignition harness thats 5 or 8pin? some have a negative starter wire, some have positive. disconnect the start wire and see if the fuses stop popping.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 18, 2015 at 7:08 PM
It's 6 pin.   So if it's a negative starter wire Should I follow the directions of type 3c on the dball2 install. Those directions don't have me connecting anything to that wire




Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 18, 2015 at 7:21 PM
I have a printout of my wiring and it does say PURPLE / brown wire polarity -180ohms ignition harness (second starter)...since it is negative what do you recommend




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 19, 2015 at 9:56 AM
double check to see if there is a wire in pin position 4. if there is one follow type 4, if not type 3C.

the negative starter will be controlled by the dball2

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 19, 2015 at 12:08 PM
Just went and re-checked. It's an 8 pin harness




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM
you will use both the 6pin and 8pin depending on your vehicle setup. like i said check to see if there is a wire in pin 4. I'm sure its type 3c

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 19, 2015 at 6:43 PM
Ted
Thanks so much. I ended up going with 3c and its works perfect. I never would of figured out that starter wire!




Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 19, 2015 at 7:01 PM
The only thing I can't get to work is the unlock on the viper remote. Is there a setting that I didn't do?




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 19, 2015 at 8:45 PM
did you reprogram the bypass module after changing the install type?

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: kowen14
Date Posted: January 19, 2015 at 8:47 PM
Nope. I'll do that tomorrow. Thanks again Ted.   I really appreciate all the help you have done.





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