Viper 5601 & DBALL2 2008 Honda Civic manual
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 27, 2024 at 9:35 AM
Topic: Viper 5601 & DBALL2 2008 Honda Civic manual
Posted By: andreb_666
Subject: Viper 5601 & DBALL2 2008 Honda Civic manual
Date Posted: March 05, 2015 at 8:37 AM
Hi everyone,
In a couple days, I'll install a Viper 5601 combo 1-way alarm/remote start on my own 2008 Honda Civic DX-G, with manual transmission (YES, the Viper 5601 is manual tranny compatible).
I'll use a DBALL2 interface/bypass kit (programmed with FW 402.HONDA4 v3.06). I'd like to use mostly D2D.
Is the tach signal from the DBALL2 via D2D is reliable enough for remote starting? Or would it be preferable to connect at an injector?
I'll also add remote trunk relase; on the DX-G , there's only a trunk release lever/cable, no factory release solenoid. I'll install remote trunk release with a relay and an aftermarket doorlock actuator.
I think I figured out most (if not all) connections. It would be nice if someone would check it out and correct me if there's any error.
Viper 5601 harnesses:
Primary harness (H1), 12-pin connector
H1/1 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT Ground input for aftermarket Relay/Trunk
H1/2 RED (+) 12v CONSTANT INPUT White (+)* @ IGNITION SWITCH (BROWN 7-Pin Plug) Pin 3
H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN OUTPUT Siren
H1/4 WHITE/ BROWN LIGHT FLASH ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87a of onboard relay Not used
H1/5 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND Ground
H1/6 VIOLET (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT Not used
H1/7 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (zone 1) D2D
H1/8 GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT D2D
H1/9 BLACK/ WHITE (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT Not used - Domelight supervision turns on with unlocking the doors
H1/10 WHITE/ BLUE (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT Not used
H1/11 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT Set polarity to (-) --- Gray (-) @ HEADLIGHT SWITCH, (BLACK/ WHITE, 12-Pin PLug) Pin 11
H1/12 ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT Not used
Heavy gauge remote start, (H3) 10-pin connector
H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT Blue (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH, BROWN 7-Pin Plug, Pin 6
H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87 White (50A) (+) @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 3
H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT Orange (+) @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 4
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) Yellow (+) @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 1
H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE) Yellow (+) @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 1
H3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT White (50A) (+) @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 3
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT "Red (+) ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 5 ( ***Program to ""ACC2"" )"
H3/8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY Not Used
H3/9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT White (50A) (+) @ ignition switch, brown 7 pin plug, pin 3
H3/10 NC NC NC NC
Auxiliary harness (H2), 18-pin connector
H2/1 LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT D2D
H2/2 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT Not Used
H2/3 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT D2D
H2/4 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT Not Used
H2/5 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT Not Used
H2/6 WHITE/ VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT Not Used
H2/7 GRAY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT Not used
H2/8 BROWN / BLACK (-) 200Ma HORN HONK OUTPUT Orange (-) @ HORN SWITCH (WHITE 20-Pin Plug) Pin 10
H2/9 VIOLET/WHITE AC TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE D2D
H2/10 BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT Orange wire (-) @ Yellow connector above Clutch pedal
H2/11 PINK/WHITE (-) 200mA FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT Not used
H2/12 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT Not used
H2/13 VIOLET (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT Not used
H2/14 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT Not used
H2/15 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN SWITCH INPUT (N/C OR N/O) Hood switch
H2/16 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200 mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT "BROWN (-) A/C CONTROL PANEL ( ***Program to ""Latched"" ) (need to validate this: this might be avail in a connector above gas pedal)"
H2/17 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT WIRE D2D
H2/18 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT (EMERGENCY BRAKE) ORANGE OR LIGHT GREEN (-) AT PARKING BRAKE SWITCH
Door lock harness, 3-pin connector
1 BLUE (+) LOCK (-) UNLOCK OUTPUT D2D
2 EMPTY NOT USED
3 GREEN (-) LOCK (+) UNLOCK OUTPUT D2D
DBAll2 - Installation Type 2:
Blue connector
1 LIGHT GREEN SINGLE WIRE CAN Pin 4 @ Green 7 pins connector near ignition key
13 RED 12V D2D
14 BLACK GROUND D2D
Red connector
1 BLACK/ WHITE LOCK OUTPUT ABOVE DRIVER KICK, WHITE 18 PINS PLUGS - GREEN, PIN 16
2 GREEN/ BLACK UNLOCK OUTPUT ABOVE DRIVER KICK, WHITE 18 PINS PLUGS - GREY, PIN 12
3 GREEN / WHITE DOOR STATUS OUTPUT D2D
4 RED / BLACK TRUNK STATUS OUTPUT D2D
5 VIOLET/WHITE AC TACH OUTPUT D2D
6 GRAY BRAKE STATUS OUTPUT D2D
10 YELLOW/BLACK HANDBRAKE OUTPUT D2D
11 ORANGE / BLACK IMMOBILIZER DATA Pin 3 @ Green 7 pins connector near ignition key
12 BLUE/RED HOOD OUTPUT STATUS D2D
Black Connector
10 BLUE/WHITE GWR STATUS INPUT D2D
9 PINK IGNITION INPUT Blue (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH, BROWN 7-Pin Plug, Pin 6 ( spliced with H3/1 - PINK )
3 RED / WHITE TRUNK INPUT D2D
2 BLUE UNLOCK INPUT D2D
1 GREEN LOCK INPUT D2D
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Thanks for your help and comments
Replies:
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 05, 2015 at 9:46 AM
Seems all correct to me.
Yes DB-ALL 2 provides adequate tach.
Warning the plug you marked green for immobiliser connector, I've also seen it white and black, note sits vertically down (wire side) just inboard of ignition switch.
Also double check the wiring colours, pastel colours,very vague as are lock and unlock colours.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: andreb_666
Date Posted: March 05, 2015 at 12:27 PM
Hi Howie,
thanks for your answer.
I have another question: I thought about installing a N/O momentary switch to ground on "H1/10 WHITE/ BLUE (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT" and use this instead of the remote during the remote start activation sequence. Would this work?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 05, 2015 at 12:30 PM
Yes but why?
You still have to unlock the steering.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: March 05, 2015 at 12:38 PM
Yes, if you set reservation mode first and could reach the switch without opening any doors... Manual Transmission Mode adds some complications.
Remember that you must run in Tach Mode if used on a manual trans mission vehicle ( MT Mode ). ------------- Soldering is fun!
Posted By: andreb_666
Date Posted: March 05, 2015 at 12:58 PM
Oops I think I wasn't really clear in my explanations. Because it's installed in a manual car, I have a couple steps to do before I leave the car for the next remote startup
From the 5601 owner manual:
Manual transmission vehicles
If the vehicle has manual transmission the proper steps must be followed
before leaving the parked vehicle or the remote start feature is
disabled.
1. Put the transmission in neutral.
2. Press on the vehicle’s foot brake.
3. Apply the emergency brake.
4. Release the vehicle’s foot brake. Note: Pressing the brake again
after this step will disable the remote start feature.
5. Within 15 seconds activate the remote start from the remote. (I'd use, if possible, the momentary switch for this step instead of reaching the remote and try to push a button with my fat fingers  )
6. The parking lights will flash 5 times confirming that the remote start
is active.
7. Turn off the ignition (the car should stay running when key is turned
off).
8. Exit the vehicle and close the door.
9. Arm the alarm (the vehicle should shut off when arming the system).
You can now remote start the vehicle. If a door is opened or if the alarm
is triggered before the next remote start activation the system will not
remote start.
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But as I write this, I might found answer to my question in the chapter about the "Turbo Timer Mode" :
"When the vehicle is running follow the procedures listed above, but
instead of pressing the remote, press the push button the appropriate
number of times to activate the remote start (factory setting is for 1
pulse). Turn off the ignition and exit the vehicle. The car remains running
for the pre-programmed amount of time."
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I guess I'll give it a try, it wont harm anything if it doesn't work 
Thanks for the reminder Kreg, I had it writen down but forgot to tell about it in my first post
Posted By: andreb_666
Date Posted: November 28, 2015 at 8:48 PM
I finally got some spare time and did install the Viper 5601 in my '08 Civic!
Everything went fine, found every needed connections.
I only made one mistake; I accidentally inverted the purple and the green starter output wires...
Also, I had to connect the tach signal's input from the 5601 to one of the coils; the 5601 didn't get the tach signal from the dball2 (d2d).
I made sure everything works fine today, tomorrow I'll clean up the wiring, wrap everything up and enjoy!
Thanks Kreg and Howie for your help!
BTW, where do you mount the brain on these cars? right beside the MICU/Fusebox?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 29, 2015 at 4:19 AM
On the Euro versions of that vintage, pop the instrument panel and go behind, dead simple and makes for a very neat install.
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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.
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