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1997 Honda Ballade Sedan Immobilizer Bypass

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 6:59 AM


Topic: 1997 Honda Ballade Sedan Immobilizer Bypass

Posted By: chassis
Subject: 1997 Honda Ballade Sedan Immobilizer Bypass
Date Posted: March 16, 2015 at 12:09 PM

Good day! I would like to know if this vehicle's factory immobiliser can be bypassed.it immobilize with the keyless entry remote.the remote is totally busted.this is the 2nd honda with the same issue.their remote looks exactly like the shurlock remote but with no name on it I don't know if it is factory or not.google give me different answers posted_image

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 16, 2015 at 1:24 PM
If it has a green key light on the instrument panel the answer is no. If not trace the wiring probably just a starter (BLACK/ white) cut.

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Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 16, 2015 at 2:13 PM
No green key light on instrument panel,so I guess this can only be a aftermarket immobiliser system.I will have a look to see if (BLACK / YELLOW) or (BLACK/ white) is cut.

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Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 16, 2015 at 2:17 PM
I will fit a new system in this vehicle after bypassing.its a mission to get wires from doors through to inside of the car of this vehicle,fingers had a few cuts last time I installed aftermarket central locking.grommet almost at fender.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 16, 2015 at 2:24 PM
All Civic variants are a nightmare to run cables from door to car!

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Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 16, 2015 at 2:36 PM
Wow I thought I'm the only one noticing it lol.

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Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 10:14 AM
It Took me some time but I have finally bypassed the immobiliser on this vehicle two weeks back.what I would like to know about the hondas including civis between 1996-1998.was there a sub contract who fitted these alarm/immobilisers on these vehicle or was it fitted by honda.reason why I ask is,it look like this system was factory fitted,the holes where module was mounted is original holes aswell as the blue plucks where the black wiring is going to under the fuse box where it slides in.I see a lot of these vehicles around here with the same remote,it immobilize starter,ignition and fuel pump.enjoy fitting alarms into these vehicles,I get all my wires at one pluck.last question,the factory central locking doesn't work on this car,I have checked the c/locking fuse (20A) in engine compartment,and it looks fine.any skill on finding this problem?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 10:57 AM
They would have been done at either the importing port or by a dealer.
I used to fit Scorpion alarms custom designed for Toyotas brackets, position, plugs etc. matching factory. Renault Espace used to have a plug to fit Cobra alarms.
The Italians, Cobra, Scorpion and Piranha used to custom make for vehicle manufacturers. Another Italian brand custom made for UK BMWs in the early 90s.
As for the central locking, could be anything.
Test the fuse via a DMM, relays module, broken wire into driver door.
Depending on where made, 3 door was Japanese, lock module in driver's door, grey, screwed in on top with a brass coloured screw.
UK, 5 door had a Lucas module in the centre console beneath the radio.
Japanese was single point, i.e. only from driver door key, Euro was multipoint, either front door. Also look for a broken cable, driver door entry loom. Motor colours if I remember were WHITE/ red and yellow/red but it's been at least 10 years since I've worked on one so I can't confirm. Power supply was WHITE/ green from the fuse.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 11:12 AM
There is a module screwed in on drivers door.I will have it checked out.Thanks a lot for all the information Howie.Much appreciated!!

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 11:16 AM
That means single point locking.
Check the power supply at the module, WHITE/ green should be 12 Volt constant.
The other "thick" (2 of course) are the motor wires.
Other wires will be ground (earth) probably black.
2 trigger wires, blue/red, blue/white?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 11:20 AM
If the module is faulty, you can replace it quite cheaply with a lock relay from SPAL.*
Once you've established power, ground and motors the trigger wires will alternatively go to ground when door is either locked or unlocked.
*Twin relay with shutdown after 3 seconds.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 11:24 AM
WHITE/ green I have checked,but was not sure if it was the proper wire.yes it had 12v on it and the black is just next to it which I tested as ground.those 2 wires seem fine,I've also feed some current to the motors momentarily and it moved.so it could either be a broken wire or module itself?

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM
Broken wire in the door return or more likely the module itself.
The other thick wires, disconnect at plug and loop WHITE/ red to POS (WHITE/ green), other thick to ground. With passenger door unlocked, this should lock it. Then reverse the connections to unlock it.
If the above works then it's the module, cheapest replacement, find a firm in S.A. importing either Spal or MES lock and window products (Google) and order a relay.
Don't buy cheap Chinese junk as advertised on Fleabay, about 30% failure rate.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM
Will all doors lock or only pass side?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 11:42 AM
Only passenger side on Euro Spec. see if the motor wires go to the rear of the driver's door. I believe there's only a switch (off key hole and lock rod).
Up to 2000 model we had to add an actuator in the driver's door.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 11:49 AM
Yes motor wires go to driver rear.when you talk about add actuator in driver door.I see on some vehicles you have to add an actuator in drivers door.I normaly do it when I can't find the c/locking trigger wires.what is the main reason puting an actuator in driver door?

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 11:57 AM
When there isn't one already! BTW have a physical look it seems you already have one if the motor wires go to the rear. Check.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 12:24 PM
Thank you!I will have a look tomorrow morning and will let you know.

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 12:31 PM
Just test as I told you, that will give you the answers.
AFAIK Japanese build Civics for all regions bar North America didn't have an actuator in the driver's door pre- 2000.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 12:34 PM
Just thought of something, did the remote lock/unlock the car as well? If so there WILL be an actuator in the driver's door.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 12:40 PM
Yes the remote did,sorry if I didn't mention it.but all doors have actuators in.the question for the (add actuator in drivers door) was not ment for this vehicle,was a (out of the blue) question.all doors have actuators with wiring going to it.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 12:53 PM
Actually no, Gen 1/2 Astras, had the wiring but only a switch, we simply added an actuator to the existing wiring for remote keyless entry and or alarms.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: chassis
Date Posted: March 28, 2015 at 1:24 PM
I understand 100% now.it makes more sense.

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Do it once,do it right - This means no short cuts. You never get paid twice for having to do the job twice because it wasn't done right the first time.





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