2010 GTI Remote Start

I am putting a Dball2 in my car and have a Pass-4 Omega that I would like to use instead of a key wrap. The problem is figuring out how to hook up the blue wire. Anyone happen to have experience or an idea?

12V = Just hook to 12V, no big deal
Keysense = don't think I need
blue wire is negative ignition. Well that is not an option on the Dball2. there is only a positive ignition

Thanks
Thom

if you are using the DBALL 2 as a stand alone, on the blue connector of the dball ground BROWN / red. dball yellow/red to omega blue negative ignition.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Not as a stand alone exactly. Will be adding a Code Alarm CA4054.
Blue Connect
BROWN / red = take to ground?
Yellow/red = blue

wires 10/11 on blue connector?

Thanks so much for your help!!!

correct. however if you are using a remote start unit, the unit has a status or ground when running output. connect the blue neg ignition to the remote start instead.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

If I connect the blue neg ignition to the remote starter then do I not use Yellow/Red or BROWN / Red on the dball?

Does the Pass-4 just use BROWN / red and yellow/red to switch a ground and power the Pass-4?

Thanks again Ted, I really appreciate it.

the dball yellow/red and BROWN / red will not be used. just connect the pass-4 directly to the remote start unit.

the dball can control the pass-4 as well, but isn't necessary. Yes, the dball simply provides a ground.


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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Hello,

I finished my install today. Thought I got it working but. When I remote start it. It start, runs for a second and then dies. Screen say Immobilizer Active. Is the key in the box, Omega Pass-4 the problem or maybe the dball2? Don't really know where to start.

Thanks in advance.
Thom

Change the key in box for a 555U and follow the instructions for European cars by ignoring the loop.
Done loads of VW/Audi/BMW using that method.

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Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

program tach

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

Not tach Ted, immobiliser bypass not working, you can also do the key wrap with this car, at least according to Xpresskit instructions for the DB-ALL.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Howeie II and tedmond. No fighting :-)

I do see the + and - jumper on the Pass-4. Its on plus currently.

Isn't the Pass-4 basically a fancy more secure key wrap?

I will double check the tach and if I put my other spare in the ignition and then remote start it. If it starts then does that mean the Pass-4 and/or my amazing installation work?

If it performs an RS OK but only with the key in the ignition then it's the bypass.
Actually Ted and I rarely disagree.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Update:
checked pass-4. Gets voltage on startup

no matter what key I have in the pass-4 it starts. I see Check Engine and then immobilizer activated and then dies.

If I put a key in the ignition (key is just in ignition in the off position) and remote start. I see check engine and then starts and runs.Check engine disappears.

The only other thing I can think of is the Pass-4 comes with a premade ring that is too large. So I put it around the cylinder and then tie wrapped the excess.

Dump the pass 4 also check the wires at the ignition switch, you may be missing one such as a second ignition or starter wire.
Over here VW diesels have a second thinner starter wire, same colour as main starter wire, I missed it a couple of times that's how I know.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

Hope the attachment gets uploaded it is the xpresskit image of how I hooked it up.

Assuming ignition key rather than PTS use diagram 3 and alternate method on page 4.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.

I will tear apart column again and do that. Stupid question. will the key with the wrench on it work? It is not the flip key.

Thanks for all of your help
Thom

I took "immobilizer active" as immobilizer was sucessfully bypassed. WOops.
Are you sure the pass-4 is turning on and off? Feel it for a relay click as you activate the remote start. Another quick way to test is hold the key up to the key cylinder to confirm its a bypass issue.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

tedmond,
I hear it click. Also if the key is in the ignition it starts just fine, except I do see on the display check engine or service engine now for a brief moment. So it appears to be a key issue. That is why I am wondering if my emergency key is programmed for my car. If not then how do I get it programmed?

Thanks
Thom

Try the emergency key. If not dealer only.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.