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viper 4806v and aftermarket immobilizer

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: viper 4806v and aftermarket immobilizer

Posted By: eanema
Subject: viper 4806v and aftermarket immobilizer
Date Posted: April 26, 2015 at 3:44 PM

Hi folks,
I have installed a viper 4806v into a 1998 Toyota 4rummer with an aftermarket immobilizer installed. I had a bit if a problem with the manual transmission mode but I got that all figured out. Now I am having a hard time with the immobilizer. The remote start cranks but because if the immobilizer it won't start (unless a fob has been left by the ignition)

I followed all the wires from the immobilizer and there are three spots where a wire has been cut and then both sides have been run into the immobilizer: the starter, what I assume is the fuel pump line and something else that is behind the fuse box. The starter is already bypassed correctly but the other two disconnections are. It bypassed. To test I shirted the wires back together , removing the immobilizer and everything works good.

The last bit of information I have is there is a single wire coming from the immobilizer that was connected to the previous remote start module that I was replacing. It was connected to a terminal labeled "ground out" in tried grounding this to defeat the immobilizer but it didn't effect it.

My question is this: I can take two relays and connect them up to short the cut wires back together when the remote start is active, but I was hoping for a bit more elegant solution.

Does anyone have any better ideas?

Is there supposed to be some sort of defeat option on an immobilizer? How does it normally work?



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Posted By: eanema
Date Posted: April 26, 2015 at 3:45 PM
FYI, the aftermarket immobilizer is an autowatch autoguard




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: April 26, 2015 at 6:04 PM
you shouldnt have to do that. if you power the wire that exits the unit to the starter wire in the car (away from ignition) it should work fine.

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Ted
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Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
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Posted By: eanema
Date Posted: April 26, 2015 at 6:48 PM
The immobilizer is switching three key wires in the system, not just the starter. The remote start bypasses the starter circuit (and the clutch switch) already, but I need to bypass the fuel pump and the unknown disconnection. If all three haven't been bypassed the vehicle does not start.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 27, 2015 at 5:33 AM
Use the NEG ignition output at H21,(pink) add relay take that wire to 85
Ignition POS input to 86.
12V+ constant, fused 20 amps to 87 and output as Ted described to the third circuit.
Diode 1N4004 across the relay coil (85 and 86), band side to 86.
The immobiliser at a guess bypasses starter, ignition and fuel pump.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 27, 2015 at 5:39 AM
Of course if the 4806 has H3 violet and green, starter cut, you can always remove the immobiliser, I always do that with aftermarket units although the South African Watchdog is one of the better immobilisers.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.





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