viper 4105v in 89 Chevy 1500

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Topic: viper 4105v in 89 Chevy 1500

Posted By: hondo1
Subject: viper 4105v in 89 Chevy 1500
Date Posted: June 13, 2015 at 10:07 AM

Hello everyone, I'm new here and this will be my first remote start install. I'm have a strong mechanical background, I'm just a little week in the 12 volt part. I have all the tools required such as multimeter, test light, soldering iron, etc. Basically what I need to know is what wire goes to what wire. So here goes I'll list the wires from the viper and were I think they go. Please correct me when needed.

Viper main harness, 9 pin connector
1 Lt GREEN/ black (-) factory alarm disarm. Omit
2 grn/white.       (-) fact alarm rearm.     Omit
3 yellow. (+) ignition out (to alarm). Don't know?
4 WHITE/ blue.      (-) activation input.      Don't know?
5 orange. (-) ground when locked/anti grind. Don't know?
6 brown (-) horn out.       Black wire in steering column
7 RED / white.       (-) trunk release.       Omit
8 black. Ground.
9 white. (+/-) light flash output. Brown wire in light switch

Viper door lock 3 pin
1 blue. (-) unlock.    BLACK/ red in kick panel
2 blank
3 green. (-) lock.      Lt blue in kick panel

Viper remote start 6 pin
1 red.    (+)(30a) high current 12v input.   Direct to positive bat term
2 pink/white. Output to 2nd inhibition/acc circuit. Don't know?
3 red.    (+)(30a) high current 12v input. Red in ingnition harness
4 orange. Output to acc circuit.    Orange in ingnition harness
5 purple. Output to starter.        Purple in inginition harness
6 pink.   Output to primary ingnition. Pink in ingnition harness

Satellite harness 4 pin
Omit

Remote start 5 pin
1 BLACK/ white. (-) neutral safety input.    Ground
2 viloet/white tach. Tach terminal on distributor
3 brown.       (+) brake shutdown input.   White on brake switch
4 gray.        (-) hood pin switch.    Included hood pin switch
5 blue/white. (-) defogger.        Omit

If anyone can help on the ones I don't know or if I have some wrong it would be greatly appreciated. Also if I need to add relays, or anything else p!ease let me know.
Thanks.

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: June 13, 2015 at 4:43 PM

Very good research. posted_image Only issue will be the power door locks.

Viper main harness, 9 pin connector
1 Lt GREEN/ black (-) factory alarm disarm. Omit       OK
2 grn/white.       (-) fact alarm rearm.     Omit           OK
3 yellow.          (+) ignition out (to alarm). Don't know?         NOT USED
4 WHITE/ blue.      (-) activation input.      Don't know? NOT USED
5 orange.          (-) ground when locked/anti grind. Don't know?     NOT USED
6 brown (-) horn out.       Black wire in steering column        OK
7 RED / white.       (-) trunk release.       Omit OK
8 black. Ground.    OK
9 white. (+/-) light flash output. Brown wire in light switch      OK Set Viper Fuse/Jumper to (+)

Viper door lock 3 pin
1 blue. (-) unlock.    BLACK/ red in kick panel We need to know if the truck is a 4 door or 2 door.
2 blank    You will need a Directed 451M Door Lock Module either way.
3 green. (-) lock.      Lt blue in kick panel       See note below for details :
   Note : 5 wire reverse polarity on the 2 door models. Positive trigger on the 4 door models.

Viper remote start 6 pin
1 red.    (+)(30a) high current 12v input.   Direct to positive bat term     OK ( might be two Reds in ignition switch harness )
2 pink/white. Output to 2nd inhibition/acc circuit. Don't know? Not Used
3 red.    (+)(30a) high current 12v input. Red in ingnition harness         OK
4 orange. Output to acc circuit.    Orange in ingnition harness OK
5 purple. Output to starter.        Purple in inginition harness      OK ( might be Yellow )
6 pink.   Output to primary ingnition. Pink in ingnition harness              OK

Satellite harness 4 pin
Omit

Remote start 5 pin
1 BLACK/ white. (-) neutral safety input.     Ground Ok
2 viloet/white tach.        Tach terminal on distributor          Ok
3 brown.       (+) brake shutdown input.              White on brake switch      Ok
4 gray.        (-) hood pin switch. Included hood pin switch OK
5 blue/white. (-) defogger.         Omit        OK

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Posted By: hondo1
Date Posted: June 16, 2015 at 7:32 PM

Thanks for your help. It is a 2 door, I've ordered the door module. After doing a little more research I see that its pretty common to put both 12v constant wires on the red wire in the ingnition harness. I just didn't want to overload it that's why I listed to battery, but now I think I will just tie them in together. Well when the module comes in I wire it up and see what happens. Thanks again.

Posted By: hondo1
Date Posted: July 04, 2015 at 3:34 PM

Thanks Kreg357, finally had some spare time to install this kit. With the help you gave me in the above post everything went perfect. This was my first time installing a remote start and keyless entry. Started this morning at about 7 finished up around lunchtime. Thanks again.

Posted By: mbecker
Date Posted: July 09, 2015 at 5:06 PM

Hi Kreg357, I hope you don't mind helping me out too. I want to install the same remote starter on my 1989 Chevy Suburban. I have a 4 door though. I am following just about everything in the post (thanks Hondo1 for all your research). I just don't follow the issue with the power door locks and the need for a Directed 451M Door Lock Module. I don't know what that is, but I will order it. Can you explain what the 451M Door Lock Module does and how I should install it? You also lost me with regard to 5 wire reverse polarity on the 2 door models and Positive trigger on the 4 door models. I am not sure that I need to know exactly what that all means, but if you could give me a little insight I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 10, 2015 at 8:08 AM

Put simply, since your Suburban is a 4 door you will need POS (+) triggering of the locks.
Assuming you have a DEI unit this only produces a NEG (-) lock trigger thus you need to convert this to POS (+). the 451 is a twin relay door lock module and wired as per instructions it plugs straight into your DEI unit.

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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: July 10, 2015 at 3:31 PM

As Howie said... posted_image

On the two door models, GM set them up with a door lock system that requires the Type C ( 5 wire reverse ) wiring method to
allow the aftermarket unit to control the door locks. On the 4 door models, GM went with a different system. On the 4 door
models, a straight +12V pulse will control the door locks. The Directed 451M module can be configured to handle either
system. Here is a link to the 451M install guide : https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=726

Most newer aftermarket R/S systems output a simple low current (-) lock pulse. While this works fine for most newer vehicles,
your older GM vehicle needs a healthy (+) 12 volt pulse to actuate the locks. Follow the Type A wire diagram with the 451M
module and connect the appropriate wires to the vehicle. As Howie II mentioned, if you are using a Directed product ( Viper,
Python, Avital, etc ), it has the correct connector to plug right into the units' locks connector.

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