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Automatic window closer, BMW X3

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 01, 2024 at 10:21 PM


Topic: Automatic window closer, BMW X3

Posted By: roakusfm
Subject: Automatic window closer, BMW X3
Date Posted: July 04, 2015 at 1:51 AM

Hello friends, I have BMW X3 and year 2006. I bought automatic window closer module, so that anytime i lock the car, then all window also close.

It came with 2 diagrams. One is negative raising up window and the other one is positive raising up window, so please which one i have to use then? Its possible to get bmw x3 2006 up and down window diagram?

And also to fine central locking negative and positive trigger. Thanks. I hope someone will guide me soon.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 04, 2015 at 4:25 AM
Not needed, loom from driver's door blue/reed ground (to mass) from alarm or via a timer will close all windows, roof if applicable.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 04, 2015 at 7:01 AM
I believe you've installed a Viper to this vehicle.
If you use the blue/red NEG (-) lock and WHITE/ black NEG (-) unlock wires as mentioned above. You can either set the alarm to comfort close for closing or use an aux to close joined to the lock wire, use another aux joined to unlock wire to vent/open the windows.

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 2:38 AM
Well, thanks for your replied but I didnt installed any alarm because the car came with alarm.

And if I would understand your statement good, you mean I dont have to install the module that I bought to my car? or I can install but I dont need a diagram.

Now I am an understand that, I can get all the closing wires from the driver side panel.

Thanks!!!

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 2:43 AM
If you want to go that route, fine the window close wires will be in the body control module, you'll need to access circuit diagrams to find the UP (CLOSE) motor wires location and colours, body control module.
Much easier to buy a timer module, DEI 528t for under 20 Euro and trigger it from the blue/red lock wire.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 2:46 AM
ok , so if i buy the timer module, which mean I dont need the one I bought or i have to use both?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 2:49 AM
You don't need the one you bought for a BMW, only the timer, Velleman do a kit as well. All you need to do is extend the time on that lock wirer, it will automatically close windows and roof if present.
You should have posted before buying.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 2:54 AM
yea you are right. Then i am going to buy the timer now. thank you much for your help. If I got it and I dont understand something, I will let you know. Have a lovely nice day!!!

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 2:59 AM
Hello please I have to ask you one thing also. I have installed Navis in my car for reverse camera and I bought another camera for front, so my question is, what I have to do,, so that the front also work when I am ^parking?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 3:27 AM
Rear camera switched via reverse light feed.
Front, you need to switch it on when parking, the only other way would be a speed controlled device. That is something that shuts down over 8mph/13kph.
Google Sailes Marketing.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 4:12 AM
ok and where to find speed controlled device and what wire I have to use?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 4:14 AM
No idea, Google it.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 4:57 AM
This:-
https://sailesmarketing.com/shop/electronic-interfaces/speed-switch-relay/

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 5:01 AM
Speed pulse wire, YELLOW /GREEN, location instrument cluster, 26 pin plug, pin 6.

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: July 05, 2015 at 7:58 AM
oh ok, thanks a lot. Good bye

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 10, 2016 at 4:25 PM
Hello Friends, I need your help. I have BMW E83 and What I have to do, so that when i press lock, then all open widows close? Normally when I hold down the lock bottom, then all close but when i forgot, then its stay open. I asked BMW and they said, its in possible but I think its possible to do that. So i hope someone here can help me. Thanks!!!

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 10, 2016 at 4:45 PM
timer for bmw e83 this one is good to buy?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 10, 2016 at 11:58 PM
Not available to open use a DEI 528t on the blue/red lock wire.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 16, 2016 at 4:13 PM
Hello please this is the diagram and which one I have to use to connect to close windows? posted_image

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 18, 2016 at 12:41 PM
posted_imageh now i got the relay at home and this is the diagram. so please which one I have to use?

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 18, 2016 at 12:48 PM
BLACK/ white and brown to lock wire blue/red.
Black and yellow to ground.
Red to constant 12V+
Set timer for 15 seconds if electric roof, 10-12 otherwise.



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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 18, 2016 at 1:10 PM
Ok , so if I can understand you clear, then BLACK/ WHITE AND BROWN TOGETHER AND CONNECT LOCK WIRE BLUE/RED
BLACK AND YELLOW TO GROUND
OK tHANKS VERY MUCH AND i WILL GIVE YOU A FEEDBACK


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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 19, 2016 at 3:23 PM
Hello good day, please I was busy with my car but it doesnt work and also that blue/red is for airbag for driver side and now it on.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 19, 2016 at 3:26 PM
Blue/red in loom at kick panel going into driver's door.
This a reason I don't like to help amateurs who don't check and test.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 19, 2016 at 3:45 PM
No please don't say that because I am not worried about that. And i open the driver side panel and the only blue/red is for airbag. Try to help me please

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 19, 2016 at 3:50 PM
Loom going into driver's door, you should have a blue/red for lock and a WHITE/ black unlock.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 19, 2016 at 3:54 PM
ok thanks i will find out again tomorrow

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Posted By: dosoft
Date Posted: February 21, 2016 at 10:21 PM
On X3 you do not have those 2 wires for lock and unlock in the loom going to the door or in the kick panel. The only way is to run 2 wires through this loom inside the driver`s door, which is real pain in the... and I am not sure if you can do it yourself. The lock/unlock wires you can find at the module under the window switches. I don`t remember the colors, but follow the harness from the door handle/ key barrel. In this harness you should have 3 wires : Ground, Lock and Unlock.





Posted By: dosoft
Date Posted: February 21, 2016 at 10:34 PM
Actually you can install your module inside the driver`s door. You have everything you need in there in terms of signals and power.
And I made a mistake in the previous post. The control module in the door, where the lock/unlock wires could be found is not part of the window switches. It is part of the window motor if I remember correctly. But anyway, just follow the harness I have already explained about.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 22, 2016 at 9:28 AM
Thanks bro, I will give you a feedback!!!

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 25, 2016 at 10:57 AM
hello please I am still not understand how this: Directed DEI 528T 12V Accessory Pulse Timer works because

BLACK/ white and brown to lock wire blue/red.
Black and yellow to ground.
Red to constant 12V+
Set timer for 15 seconds if electric roof, 10-12 otherwise.

which means, BLACK/ white + brown is input and where is the output?

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 25, 2016 at 2:56 PM
Now I got it.

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 27, 2016 at 11:51 AM
Hello, please I found the lock wire from my car and its white or WHITE/ yellow. when I test it without lock, its go to ground and when I click lock on the car remote, then it turn to 12 volts for a second then go back to ground.

The relay brown and BLACK/ white always 12 volts, then the relay activate, then turn to ground and the car turn to 12 volts and my fuse go out. so we have to found another solution.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 27, 2016 at 12:03 PM
You found a motor wire, not relevant. The wire you want is either a blue/red as I stated 4 pages ago or BROWN / yellow, body ECU behind glovebox, 54 pin connector, pin 22.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 27, 2016 at 3:11 PM
posted_image

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 27, 2016 at 3:14 PM
Go further down and factory alarm.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 27, 2016 at 3:31 PM
ok I saw it but that wire is negative and the relay activate to negative and I hope the factory alarm wire BROWN / yellow activate to positive

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 27, 2016 at 3:32 PM
well I can go and try now

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 27, 2016 at 3:47 PM
Try reading it again, ref: factory wire POS (+) try reading what you're posting and then it might occur to you why I told you to see a professional in an earlier thread.
You don't read things properly and I can tell you can't or don't test properly either.
4+ pages for a half hour job.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 27, 2016 at 5:21 PM
Before I started, I asked BMW garage about that and they said, its impossible to do that. And I said its possible because of what I read from here. That is why I am trying to do it by myself. But I can do it, I hope. posted_image

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Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: February 28, 2016 at 1:14 PM
hello bro, i think I have to stop because its impossible. I found factory arm wire and the wiring diagram said: meter this wire while turning the key in the driver door key cylinder but there was nothing inn that wire. I think i have to add extra relay. Because the yellow connect to negative and its contact with brown and BLACK/ white when the relay active, then all that wires turn to negative for 10 second.BMW said to me that its impossible to do that....

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Posted By: dosoft
Date Posted: March 01, 2016 at 1:46 PM
I was impressed of your politeness until now. Calling someone "bro" is not polite, please don't do it. I understand you don't know it, so it's fine, but keep it in mind.
It's definitely possible to do it. Don't listen to BMW. You need to find a few wires inside the driver's door. Ground, +12V constant, door lock coming from the key cilinder and door lock coming from the door module and going to the lock actuator (motor). If I remember correctly the lock actuator has 3 wires going into it. I will give you the wire colors later. I have the same car and have to open my driver's door to replace the speakers anyway. Will take pictures to make it easier for you. I just need to find time for that.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: March 01, 2016 at 3:40 PM
Ok thanks Dosoft. the bro i always use is means brother. but anyway, thanks I am not going to use again. Please and yours, you did the same thing i want to do? And always I can use the same relay to do that work? If I can understand good, then I can do it.


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Posted By: dosoft
Date Posted: March 02, 2016 at 4:23 PM
I know what "bro" means, I live in NY. But it is not polite.
You only need the module to do it. No extra relay. I have not done it because I don't want my windows and sunroof to close every time I lock the doors. But theoretically it should work with that module. I'm not sure if I will be able to take pictures because there is a foam cover inside the door which needs to be removed and it could brake very easy, especially in cold weather. This foam prevents water of soaking the door panel, so be very careful not to damage it. Cut the black sticky glue that holds it with sharp knife , and then stick it back while heating it up with hairdryer or otherwise.




Posted By: roakusfm
Date Posted: March 02, 2016 at 4:43 PM
Ok dosoft, thanks a lot.

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