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Intellistart 4 RPM Programming

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Printed Date: May 09, 2024 at 9:05 AM


Topic: Intellistart 4 RPM Programming

Posted By: punker
Subject: Intellistart 4 RPM Programming
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 11:20 AM

Hi,

I have an AvantGuard 5.5 installed on my 1994 Peugeot 205 diesel and I'm adding an Intellistart unit to it. I believe the wiring is ok, but I'm stuggling to program the RPM for the remote start.

There aren't many sensors on a XUD7 n/a diesel engine, so I've taken a supply from one alternator winding (internally). I get about 9v AC at idle. Should this be ok?

I initially tried manually programming, but my PlainView switch was playing up (turned out to me a dodgy connector). So I then tried the CliffNet Wizard, and always got 'nocode' every time I tried to learn the RPM.

So then I sorted the valet switch and tried manual programming again. Sometimes I get one chirp, sometimes two, but it never seems to store it.

Upon doing some research AFTER I tried programming the RPM with the Wizard, it seems I may have messed things up.

So basically, is there a way to 'reset' the Intellistart to accept the RPM being programmed manually, or do I have to get a new unit?

Thanks :)



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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 1:04 PM
Get a 465 tach generator from the importers and a new switch.
You're going to damage the alternator and the Whizz doesn't work on G5 product, manual initialisation is the only way to go.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: punker
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 1:17 PM
Thanks for your reply Howie. Ok, I'll get them ordered.

Do you think my Intellistart will be ok? I mean, will it program ok manually after I've already used the Wizard with it? Assuming I get a decent tach signal sorted that is :)




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 1:23 PM
Yes, never really used the Whiz on G5. The car worries me more, does it start when the glow plug light goes out without having to pump the accelerator?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: punker
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 1:28 PM
OK cool :)

Is 9v a little too much for the I/S tach wire?

Yeah, it starts very well, as long as the glowplug light is out it will always fire literally within half a second, no pedal pumping at all :)

Can you recommend somewhere in the UK to get the tach generator and switch?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 1:42 PM
Actually the part is 455t tach generator.
That and switch Car Audio Security, the importer.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: punker
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 1:46 PM
Thanks Howie :) Yeah, just been searching and 465 seems to be something to do with fobs. And 455 is something Jeep related posted_image

Could the tach generator be 454t?




Posted By: punker
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 1:50 PM
https://caraudiosecurity.com/454t-alternator-rpm-detector-tach-signal-generator

Is this the one?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 1:54 PM
Yes and they will also have the switch.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: punker
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 1:55 PM
Thanks for your help :)




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 07, 2016 at 1:56 PM
Sorry about that now I know why I retired!

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: punker
Date Posted: January 08, 2016 at 12:09 PM
Hey Howie, OK so I picked up the bits today from Hayes and managed to program the RPM manually :) Well I guess I did, because the remote start does actually work, although the engine dies after 5 ish seconds, and does that 3 times.

Any idea what that's all about?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 08, 2016 at 12:28 PM
It would run 15 seconds if tach wasn't recognised, have you got all the ignition loom wired up?
Set up as a diesel with glow-plug delay?

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.




Posted By: punker
Date Posted: January 08, 2016 at 2:51 PM
Ah OK. Well now it seems a bit hit and miss. Most of the time it starts fine. But then other times, it will start up twice, but then cut out after 4-5 seconds. Then on the third try, it starts up and stays on.

I've check the ignition, starter and accessory wires and the all seem OK.

I have noticed that it doesn't wait for the glow plug to go out, even though I have it wired up? I'm pretty sure I read to leave the fuel type as 'gas' and wire up either a glow plug (+) or glow plug (-) and it will wait to stop seeing that before cranking. Have I got that right?

Thanks :)




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 08, 2016 at 2:56 PM
No, leave it as diesel, use the whiz to set up the wait to start, say 4 seconds then after using whiz reprogram tach.

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Amateurs assume, don't test and have problems; pros test first. I am not a free install service.
Read the installation manual, do a search here or online for your vehicle wiring before posting.





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