5706V, 2003 Honda Accord

Greetings all. I am wondering if someone can tell me if and how I can install the Viper 5706V(RS and Alarm with LCD FOB) without using the alarm features. It was almost the same price as the 4706V(remote start only w/LCD FOB), so I bought it.

I have installed a 4806V(remote start only w/LED FOB) w/DBALL2 in my 2004 Honda Accord, now want to install this 5706V w/DBALL2 in my 2003 Accord. I Thought I could easily reference my last install but there are additional wires for the starter kill etc that requires 5 relays. I really do not feel I need the alarm feature and would prefer not having a bunch of relays to fail preventing my car from starting some day.

I really don't want to send it back, and I am sure the vendor doesn't want it back either. Any help is greatly appreciated.

I really didn't consider the additional wiring other then the tilt switch and horn wiring when I made my decision to purchase. Doh!

Thanks in advance for the replies.

Maybe I ask that this be moved to wiring request to confirm what is needed in the heavy gauge harness? Seems like it may be a simple install. Sorry to clutter the posts.

Basically to do this you will need to use the system in Valet mode. As there is no software option to use it as only a R/S and Keyless. So the system doesn't arm with the door locks. Also the hood pin is a dual use for the alarm input trigger and R/S shutdown. If it comes out of Valet mode and the hood is opened it will flash the lights during the trigger.

For no starter kill don't cut Starter wire and only use the heavy gauge purple wire for start output, leave the green disconnected.

Leave shock sensor and siren out. Don't connect any alarm input triggers.

Everything else is wired as a R/S unit.

Lurch, thanks for the reply. After further searching, I see what you are saying about the purple wire. The initial information I found showed a bunch of relays, I wasn't interested in that. But I see that, like you said, I can simply just connect the purple wire to the starter and it should operate ok. So if not in valet mode, the alarm will arm when locked, and if set off, the lights will just flash? Its a 2003 Accord, I wasn't worried about theft. It was just that the alarm model was the same price as the remote start, so I figured I would just use it, but not connect the sensor input and siren. Seems like there is a bit more to consider then I did. I suppose the factory horn won't honk when locked with this model either since it should have a siren hooked up. I hate when I complicate things. Would I be better off just getting the remote start unit instead? I just have thoughts of the siren going off at 2am on my old Accord. Any other thoughts? Thx again.

You can do horn honk using the 24 pin/16 BROWN / Black (-) 200mA Horn Honk Output to the HORN GREEN/ YELLOW ( - ) AT THE STEERING COLUMN
You will need to change the Menu 1 Security Item 10 to option 2. If you want the lock and unlock conformation with the horn.

I have a chance to buy something similar. Just to clarify, do the alarm input/outputs have to be connected in order to get it working initially or can the alarm connections just be bypassed and the unit then be programmed into valet mode without those connections made? Thanks...

That I can think of the only alarm wire required to enter programming is the door trigger, but you can wire a push button or toggle switch to ground to do that for the (-) door trigger and not hook it to the vehicle door trigger as long as it's a Auto Trans. As the door trigger is required to enter ready mode for remote start on manual trans capable systems.

Valet mode can be done by remote.

Thanks, Lurch. I would probably at least hook up the door trigger.

The only function it will provide in R/S function is the Programming mode entry.

Greetings again Gents. I finally have had a chance to get back to trying to make this work. I think I have everything working properly but it will not run. I can arm, lock, unlock, and it cranks over, it just doesn't run. When starting, DBALL2 light is off. Call for start, DBALL2 blinks green, it cranks, then DBALL2 blinks orange about 13 times, the goes to blinking green about 13 times, then tries to crank and blinks 13 orange again. I did not use PINK/BLACK, PINK/WHITE, GREEN, VIOLET, RED/WHITE in the heavy gauge harness. I connected the pink ignition wire from the 5706V to the pink from DBALL2 to the ignition wire in heavy gauge harness. neutral safety to ground, the red power and black ground on the 5706V. DBALL2 Lt green, Orange/Red, and Yellow/Red all wired properly.   It is a pretty simple install but I don't get it. Any help is greatly appreciated.

I figured if I am looking for help, it would be best to post the wiring I have in place. All features work but the car doesn't start. :) It cranks over but never runs. I have tried starting when locked/"armed" or unlocked/"unarmed", cranks but doesn't start. I own a BitWriter and the XKLoader. Latest firmware in place on the DBall2. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. I hope the following displays ok.

5706V

Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector
H1/1 Red (+)12VDC constant input        Honda White (Ign Harness)
H1/2 Black (-) chassis ground           Ground to Chassis

Auxiliary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness (H2), 24-pin connector
H2/13 Black/ White** (-) neutral safety /parking brake input          Ground to Chassis
H2/17 Pink (-) 200mA ignition 1 output    Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)

Remote Start, (H3) 10-pin connector
H3/2 Red / Black (+) fused 12v accessory/starter input Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/5 Red (+) fused12v ignition 1 input     Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/7 Violet (+) starter output (car side of the starter kill           Honda Blk/White (Ign Harness)
H3/8 Orange (+) accessory output     Honda Blk/Red (Ign Harness)
H3/9 Red / White (+) fused 12 v ignition 2 / flex relay input        Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/10 Pink (+) ignition 1 input/output     Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)

Door Lock, 3-pin connector
None used

Other connections from Viper module:
Neutral Safety switch      plugged in and in the ON position.
RF Port for IVU Control Center             not used.
Sensor 1              not used.
Sensor 2              not used.

Connected D2D Installation Type 1

DBALL2

H14/1 Lt. Green        Honda Kick Panel Pin 4
H14/10 Orange/Red       Honda Immobilizer Pin 5 Column
H14/101 Yellow/Red      Honda Immobilizer Pin 5 Car Side

H12/11 Orange/Black     Honda Immobilizer Pin 2

H10/9 Pink              Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)

2003 Honda Accord with 5760V and DBall2 won't start. All features work but the car doesn't start. It cranks over but never runs. I have tried starting when locked/"armed" or unlocked/"unarmed", cranks but doesn't start. I own a BitWriter and the XKLoader and the latest firmware is in place on the DBall2. Not producing any errors from what I can see. The DBall2 flashes orange a bunch of times, tries to start again while flashing green. Any suggestions?

5706V

Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector
H1/1 Red (+)12VDC constant input        Honda White (Ign Harness)
H1/2 Black (-) chassis ground           Ground to Chassis

Auxiliary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness (H2), 24-pin connector
H2/13 Black/ White** (-) neutral safety /parking brake input          Ground to Chassis
H2/17 Pink (-) 200mA ignition 1 output    Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)

Remote Start, (H3) 10-pin connector
H3/2 Red / Black (+) fused 12v accessory/starter input Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/5 Red (+) fused12v ignition 1 input     Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/7 Violet (+) starter output (car side of the starter kill           Honda Blk/White (Ign Harness)
H3/8 Orange (+) accessory output     Honda Blk/Red (Ign Harness)
H3/9 Red / White (+) fused 12 v ignition 2 / flex relay input        Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/10 Pink (+) ignition 1 input/output     Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)

Door Lock, 3-pin connector
None used

Other connections from Viper module:
Neutral Safety switch      plugged in and in the ON position.
RF Port for IVU Control Center             not used.
Sensor 1              not used.
Sensor 2              not used.

Connected D2D Installation Type 1

DBALL2

H14/1 Lt. Green        Honda Kick Panel Pin 4
H14/10 Orange/Red       Honda Immobilizer Pin 5 Column
H14/101 Yellow/Red      Honda Immobilizer Pin 5 Car Side

H12/11 Orange/Black     Honda Immobilizer Pin 2

H10/9 Pink              Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)

Auxiliary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness (H2), 24-pin connector
H2/17 Pink (-) 200mA ignition 1 output    Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness) No, Just NO!

Remote Start, (H3) 10-pin connector
H3/2 Red / Black (+) fused 12v accessory/starter input Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/5 Red (+) fused12v ignition 1 input     Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/7 Violet (+) starter output (car side of the starter kill           Honda Blk/White (Ign Harness)
H3/8 Orange (+) accessory output     Honda Blk/Red (Ign Harness)
H3/9 Red / White (+) fused 12 v ignition 2 / flex relay input        Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/10 Pink (+) ignition 1 input/output     Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)
Not using Ignition 2 (yellow)?

DBALL2

H14/1 Lt. Green        Honda Kick Panel Pin 4
H14/10 Orange/Red       Honda Immobilizer Pin 5 Column These appear reversed, orange/red goes into the harness
H14/101 Yellow/Red      Honda Immobilizer Pin 5 Car Side These appear reversed, yellow/red goes towards the connector at the switch

H12/11 Orange/Black     Honda Immobilizer Pin 2

H10/9 Pink              Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)

Catback, thanks for the reply.

I am using the diagram and instructions for the DBall2. https://directechs.blob.core.windows.net/documents/dball-dball2-honda4_en_ig_vm20151123.pdf Page 3

The diagram shows both the Pink ignition inputs being connected, also states nothing in regards to using a yellow Ignition 2. I've installed a 4806V in my 2004 Accord, no issues.

Visually inspected immobilizer wiring. Posting corrected wiring setup.


Connected D2D Installation Type 1

5706V

Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector
H1/1 Red (+)12VDC constant input        Honda White (Ign Harness)
H1/2 Black (-) chassis ground           Ground to Chassis

Auxiliary/Shutdown/Trigger Harness (H2), 24-pin connector
H2/13 Black/ White** (-) neutral safety /parking brake input          Ground to Chassis
H2/17 Pink (-) 200mA ignition 1 output    Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)

Remote Start, (H3) 10-pin connector
H3/2 Red / Black (+) fused 12v accessory/starter input Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/5 Red (+) fused12v ignition 1 input     Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/7 Violet (+) starter output (car side of the starter kill           Honda Blk/White (Ign Harness)
H3/8 Orange (+) accessory output     Honda Blk/Red (Ign Harness)
H3/9 Red / White (+) fused 12 v ignition 2 / flex relay input        Honda White (Ign Harness)
H3/10 Pink (+) ignition 1 input/output     Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)

Door Lock, 3-pin connector
None used

Other connections from Viper module:
Neutral Safety switch      plugged in and in the ON position.
RF Port for IVU Control Center             not used.
Sensor 1              not used.
Sensor 2              not used.

Connected D2D Installation Type 1

DBALL2

H14/1 Lt. Green        Honda Kick Panel Pin 4
H14/10 Orange/Red       Honda Immobilizer Pin 5 Car Side
H14/11 Yellow/Red      Honda Immobilizer Pin 5 Column

H12/11 Orange/Black     Honda Immobilizer Pin 2

H10/9 Pink              Honda Blk/Yellow (Ign Harness)

The DBALL2 install diagram shows 1 ignition and 2 accessories. That said, the install guide is a guide and doesn't depict everything that a particular install may use or have connected.

"H2/17 Pink (-) 200mA ignition 1 output" is a negative output and you're feeding it with a positive feed "H3/10 Pink (+) ignition 1 input/output"

At this point the "H2/17 Pink (-) 200mA ignition 1 output" circuit is likely fried and it's possible the "H3/10 Pink (+) ignition 1 input/output" is also dead.