2015 Toyota Sienna w/ Smart Key & DBall2

DBall2 will control OEM functions (lock, unlock, etc..) but will not remote start vehicle.

2015 Toyota Sienna with Smart Key but no OEM remote start. Installed DBall2 402.TL2 4.07 using type 2a with Harness to add remote start function and 2 way remote function using XL202.

2 way communication is working ok for locking, unlocking, trunk function. Remote start does not work using 2 way remote or OEM remote by pressing lock 3 times. DBall2 light does not respond to remote start commands (does not flash at all; green, orange or red) but does respond to all other 2 way remote commands (orange light flashes). Since the DBall2 and vehicle respond correctly to all 2-way commands other than remote start, I believe the two are communicating correctly as they should.

I was told by Directed the DBall2 with RSR option and not need any additional remote start modules. However, since I installed it myself, they are not willing to help troubleshoot the issue. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Did you program the dball or someone's else, it's possible it's not programmed correct

It was pre-programmed. However, I do own an xkloader2 and have verified the programming. I have even re-flashed per suggestion listed in DBALL2 troubleshooting topic on this message board.

One thing I have noticed is when disconnecting the DBall2 and then reconnecting to the vehicle, the LED now flashes orange 6 times before turning off after it has been programmed in the van. Does anyone know what orange 6 times means when powering on the DBall2 after having already programmed it to the vehicle?

Also, does anyone know what wires exactly control the remote start command from the DBALL2 to the car? Is it the ODB CAN wires or the BRX/BTX wires? Just trying to narrow down what I need to troubleshoot. Thanks.

It was pre-programmed. However, I do own an xkloader2 and have verified the programming. I have even re-flashed per suggestion listed in DBALL2 troubleshooting topic on this message board.

One thing I have noticed is when disconnecting the DBall2 and then reconnecting to the vehicle, the LED now flashes orange 6 times before turning off after it has been programmed in the van. Does anyone know what orange 6 times means when powering on the DBall2 after having already programmed it to the vehicle?

Also, does anyone know what wires exactly control the remote start command from the DBALL2 to the car? Is it the ODB CAN wires or the BRX/BTX wires? Just trying to narrow down what I need to troubleshoot. Thanks.

i'm not familiar with this modules, but Dball uses OBD CAN to control, lock, unlock, trunk and read status RPM(tach), voltage etc.

CAN means Controller Area Network and all car modules are connected and communicate trough this network.

The Dball module read the info from the car trough OBD CAN and send it to the remote starter trough the BRX/BTX wires and when you need to lock/unlock your car the remote starter send signal trough the Dball module using same BRX/BTX wires (TX- transmit X, RX- receive X (X- data))

so if the car just cranks,but not start, most likely reasons are :

the Dball is not wiRED / teached/programmed(wrong firmware) correctly to bypass the immo.
or there are some protocol compatibility between the remote start and the Dball module.

for example the remote starter send command to Dball module to bypass the immo, but the dball can't understand that command and do nothing or opposite case the Dball send the vehicle RPM(Tach) to the remote but the remote don't understand it and respectively won't start the car.

Sorry for my English and I hope that helped somehow.
Good luck.

Thanks for your response and information on how the module sends commands to the vehicle and where it reads the status from.

The problem is the vehicle does not even crank. If I sit in the car and have someone else try to remote start, I do not hear any relays clicking in the unit, which I have read others can hear when remote start is called with the DBall. So I don't think the DBall is even sending the start command once it receives it to the Van.

If the DBall is not detecting Ignition status, would this be a symptom? I ask because the newest firmware added ignition status through D2D. Previous firmware you needed to hook up w2w to the ignition status. I would like to try previous firmware, but cannot find where it will allow me to flash my dball2 with anything but the newest. Thanks again

OK. this is something wrong with your remote starter. check the fuses and wiring to the car or maybe your remotes from the remote starter are not paired with the remote starter or the battery or the remotes are old or maybe bad remote starter.

ignition status- is only used when the remote start try to start( the relay clicks) and is used to tell the Dball module to start bypassing the immo. so the problem is not there!

Ops my bad! forged about the remotes :D, mayde the remote starter look for some signal and that why don't wan to engage. check the wiring with the car.

try to disconnect everything from the remote starter module except the power wires and try to start you need to make it try to start first.

Thanks Pesho, but the DBall2 does not require an additional remote start module. It is a standalone module that is advertised to add remote start to RSR (remote start ready) vehicles through data communication with the car adding the ability to remote start using OEM remote pressing lock 3 times.

I am using the Viper 4706v as my 2 way remote. The Viper 4706v is connected to an XL202 which is connected to the DBall2 for communication and remote start using RSR.

If I was to hook the Viper 4706v to the DBall2 via the standard install (W2W) instead of D2D through XL202, would the Viper 4706v be controlling the remote start at that point or is that still being handled by DBall2 via RSR technology? I believe it is the RSR tech that is not working with my vehicle. Trying not to W2W everything since I overpaid for the DBall2, would like to use its D2D to simplify things if possible. Worse case, I know I can always wire the Viper 4706v directly and use the DBall2 just as the bypass. Thanks in advance

So after testing the polarity of all the wires I determined the hood switch was still sending ground when the hood was closed. Upon inspecting, the bottom of the switch would contact the chassis when pin pushed down. Remote start now working good with 2 way communication!

Wish there was some indicator the DBall2 would give that the hood is being sensed as open, it would have saved me a lot of time and aggravation!

How'd u hook the starter harness to ignition ??

For the dball2 and sienna smart key, no ignition wire needed. Only wires neeeded are 12v, ground, steering lock position, push to start switch, OBDII CAN High, OBDII CAN Low, Parking lights, BRX and BTX.