2016 VW GTI - Avital 4115L w/ Dball2 Issue

Hello all,

I have a 2016 GTI manual with PTS. I installed an Avital 4115L and Dball2 in and everything works but the engine won't turn over. The starter turns on for a split second then cuts off, it just doesn't give it enough time to start. I have put it in virtual tach with no luck, voltage mode with a 1.6 second crank time and it still only engages the starter for a split second, I've even turned all engine checking off with a crank time of 1.6 seconds and it does the same thing, only turns for a split second.

Something I noticed is that when the remote starter is hooked up, if you just quicky press and release the starter button in the car, it does the same thing, the starter runs for a split second and then cuts off, you have to hold the button down for the engine to start Now, if I disconnect the remote start, a single press of the starter button in the car starts the engine, you don't have to hold the button down. Do I need to install a diode? The dball2 has two wires going to the push to start button, both are negative. Or should I try to run a relay to simulate the button being pressed longer? Anything else I may be overlooking? I attached the wiring diagram for the dball2.

Also, I seem to be having an issue where I can't use the control button to change the settings of the Avital in this car. I turn the igniittion. on and off (push the pts button twice) but holding the control button within the five seconds after never starts the led blinking sequence to change the settings. What I have been doing is removing the Avital system and putting it in another car that's already wired up for it, changing the settings through that car, then installing the Avital system back into the 2016 GTI, anyone have any idea what could be causing that?

Thank you guys so much!

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Just wanted to mention that I have bypassed the clutch already and the immobilizer has been bypassed through the dball2 properly as well, I know neither of them are causing the issue. On occasion it does work but very rarely. This is what leads me to believe it has to do with the pts button in the car needing to be held, because with the remote start hooked up, one in maybe every 20 tries the car will start from just briefly pressing the button instead of holding it.

Anyone have any ideas? Any help is appreciated.

how is your keywrap?

silvercivicsir wrote:

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how is your keywrap?

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The keywrap is good, I've confirmed this by trying to remote start with a working key in the car. It's a keyless system, but with or without a working key in the car does not change anything. Thank you for the suggestion though!

are the brake lights coming on when it attempts to remote start?

silvercivicsir wrote:

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are the brake lights coming on when it attempts to remote start?

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Yes the brake lights come on. I still can't figure this out

I just found out that if I try to use the remote start while the engine is already running to activate the feature to keep the car running even when the key is removed, the vehicle shuts off. So the car is running, I press the remote start button, hear the relay or whatever it is inside the remote start unit click, then a second or two later the car shuts off, even if I don't remove the key from the car or anything. could this be an issue with the key wrap?

my money is still on the key wrap.. did you use the ORANGE / red, Yellow/red and BROWN / red on the dball? and cut into the IMMO wire?

silvercivicsir wrote:

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my money is still on the key wrap.. did you use the ORANGE / red, Yellow/red and BROWN / red on the dball? and cut into the IMMO wire?

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I don't remember the colors of the wires but yes, I used three wires, interrupted the connection of one of the oem wires and put the key wrap there. What makes me think it doesn't have to do with the key wrap is that even if the good, nonkey wrap key is placed on the immobilozer, it still acts the same. Also the car goes through the whole remote start process three times, it tries to start, fails, then tries two more times then shuts off.

when I hooked the remote start up I originally only had one key, so I hooked everything up except the key wrap and it worked the first day. the second day it started having the issue before I got to do the key wrap, so the issue started before I was even able to complete the key wrap due to the lack of having the second key. I figured the issue was happening because I didn't complete the key wrap yet but completing the key wrap kept the same problem, just now I could use the remote start without having to have the good key in the car.

there is not much to the install, and honestly if the car doesn't "attempt" to crank, it's 99.9% the key wrap/immobilizer (in my experience).. only other option I can suggest is swap out the DBALL, and try an Idatalink module

silvercivicsir wrote:

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there is not much to the install, and honestly if the car doesn't "attempt" to crank, it's 99.9% the key wrap/immobilizer (in my experience).. only other option I can suggest is swap out the DBALL, and try an Idatalink module

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it does attempt to start, I should post a video of it, the starter cranks for a half second and then cuts out, but it's not a virtual tach issue as I've tried to use voltage detect and just setting a crank time but no matter what it still cranks for half a second and then cuts out.