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2003 dodge dakota, Viper 5601

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=142865
Printed Date: May 03, 2024 at 10:25 AM


Topic: 2003 dodge dakota, Viper 5601

Posted By: dodgethis03
Subject: 2003 dodge dakota, Viper 5601
Date Posted: April 13, 2017 at 5:29 PM

SO I am going to try and do a pictorial on the a alarm/remote start for a 2003 dodge Dakota with a viper 5601. I am also putting together a relay that keeps the radio on until a door opens. Found the relay one here https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relaydiagram30.html I just need a little help with the door triggers. Can anyone help with this and the I could put together a pictorial. I have the dei 451m and my truck does not have an immobilizer.



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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: April 14, 2017 at 5:13 AM
Here are some photos from a 2002 Dakota that should help with your project :

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Posted By: dodgethis03
Date Posted: April 14, 2017 at 11:54 AM
I know where all the wires are. I am having trouble with what resistors to put where, to make the door triggers work. Do you got any info on that?




Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: April 14, 2017 at 12:36 PM
You betcha. Please excuse me, I get confused easily.

No resistors are necessary for the Viper alarm system to monitor the door triggers. The door triggers are standard (-) N.O.
type signals. You can use 1N4001 diodes ( with the bands away from the Viper ) to combine the signals for input to the Viper and
provide isolation for the trucks circuits.

Resistors are necessary for the one-wire door lock system.   Use the Directed 451M module and follow the Type H wiring diagram.
Use the 820 ohm resistor for the Lock wire and the 330 ohm resistor for the unlock wire. These resistors are in the 451M kit.

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Posted By: dodgethis03
Date Posted: May 22, 2017 at 11:41 PM
SO, I got the alarm in and everything seems or seemed to work great. I found that I needed to get new remote (old one was worn out)so when I tried to pair the remotes, I noticed that the control panel/ led light button was not work when the car was in the on position but did work in the acc position and the remotes are not pairing. The only thing I could think of was when I installed it and remote started the truck the heater/ac would not turn on. So I spliced in the PINK/WHITE (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT (car side of ign, acc or starter wire) of the alarm to the second acc wire. Any help would be great.




Posted By: shift_happens
Date Posted: May 23, 2017 at 11:44 AM
2 relays and 2 resistors.

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Posted By: dodgethis03
Date Posted: May 23, 2017 at 12:16 PM
I got that part done I used the dei 451m. I am just thinking I have the acc. wires mixed up. My black/ orange accessory wire doesn't run the ac/heat, so I used the pink/white wire on my alarm to the green accessory wire at my ignition. I was thinking I need to put the orange acc. wire on alarm to green wire on truck. Any thoughts?




Posted By: shift_happens
Date Posted: May 23, 2017 at 12:41 PM
You have 2 ignitions and 2 accessories on the vehicle that need to be powered along side 1 starter signal.


The heater blower itself is the DARK GREEN.
  • 1. Ignition 1 - Dark Blue
  • 2. Ignition 2 - Green/Red (typically only on the 4.7L engines)
  • 3. Accessory 1 - Black/Orange
  • 3. Accessory 2 - Dark Green
  • 3. Starter 1 - Blue/Yellow


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Posted By: dodgethis03
Date Posted: May 23, 2017 at 12:49 PM
So, I need to splice the alarm acc. wire to both the black/orange and dr. green? The main problem I am finding is I cannot pair my new remotes because the control panel on the alarm will not turn on when the truck is in the on position but does when I turn the key back to the acc position.




Posted By: dodgethis03
Date Posted: May 23, 2017 at 3:23 PM
Well everything seems to be fine. I got one of the remotes to pair. The control panel does work, I was just expecting a light to turn on. It does seem to only work when I open my passenger door not the drivers. Thank you for everyone's help.




Posted By: shift_happens
Date Posted: May 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM
dodgethis03 wrote:

So, I need to splice the alarm acc. wire to both the black/orange and dr. green? The main problem I am finding is I cannot pair my new remotes because the control panel on the alarm will not turn on when the truck is in the on position but does when I turn the key back to the acc position.


Ideally you should make your own 2nd accessory output using a relay and the accessory out of the remote starter to trigger that relay. There's a diagram in the relay section that shows how to make your 2nd accessory output using a relay and an existing accessory.

This would make it so the 2 circuits are isolated from each other. This protects both the factory circuits and the remote starter.
Jumping them together may work temporarily but that remote starter will get hot (look at the diagram, just that 2nd accessory is fused 40 amps). And when starting the car with the key, if both circuits are jumped together, well, both circuits become 1 and will not be independent circuits anymore.




Posted By: shift_happens
Date Posted: May 23, 2017 at 4:00 PM
shift_happens wrote:

dodgethis03 wrote:

So, I need to splice the alarm acc. wire to both the black/orange and dr. green? The main problem I am finding is I cannot pair my new remotes because the control panel on the alarm will not turn on when the truck is in the on position but does when I turn the key back to the acc position.


Ideally you should make your own 2nd accessory output using a relay and the accessory out of the remote starter to trigger that relay. There's a diagram in the relay section that shows how to make your 2nd accessory output using a relay and an existing accessory.

This would make it so the 2 circuits are isolated from each other. This protects both the factory circuits and the remote starter.
Jumping them together may work temporarily but that remote starter will get hot (look at the diagram, just that 2nd accessory is fused 40 amps). And when starting the car with the key, if both circuits are jumped together, well, both circuits become 1 and will not be independent circuits anymore.


For the relay:

Pin 85 - Ground While Running (status output on Viper)
Pin 86 - Accessory 1 output of Viper
Pin 30 - THIS IS YOUR NEW 2ND ACCESSORY OUT
Pin 87 - Constant 12V source




Posted By: shift_happens
Date Posted: May 23, 2017 at 4:01 PM
(wish i could just edit my posts...)

For the relay:
Pin 85 - Ground While Running (status output on Viper)
Pin 86 - Accessory 1 output of Viper which is also connected to Accessory 1 on the car
Pin 30 - THIS IS YOUR NEW 2ND ACCESSORY OUT
Pin 87 - Constant 12V source





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