Detailed Viper 4115V instructions needed
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Topic: Detailed Viper 4115V instructions needed
Posted By: parkin80
Subject: Detailed Viper 4115V instructions needed
Date Posted: June 25, 2017 at 4:03 PM
Hi everyone. I'm looking to install a Viper 4115V remote start system in to 1969 Jeep Wagoneer running 90's era Chevy TBI system with the 7747 ecm. The only accessories that will be added will be power door locks if I can successfully install them. There will be no alarm. I'm hoping someone can provide me with a more detailed installation plan. While I'm sure with enough time, frustration and popped fuses I can figure it out from the Quick Reference Install Guide, I'd really like more details. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: June 25, 2017 at 6:16 PM
The guide that comes with the Viper 4115V is very brief but should have enough info to do the install
being as it is a R/S unit with no alarm functions and the can only do an Unlock while the engine is
running under a remote start. The hard part will be your vehicles wiring. All of the R/S units are designed
for "newer" F.I. vehicles and there is little info to be found for your carbed Jeep. That being said it
shouldn't be real difficult to locate the necessary wires with a simple computer safe logic probe or Digital
Multi Meter.
Primary Harness, 9-pin connector
1 LIGHT GREEN BLACK (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT not used
2 GREEN/WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM REARM OUTPUT not used
3 YELLOW (+) IGNITION OUT (TO ALARM) not used
4 WHITE/BLUE (-) ACTIVATION INPUT not used
5 ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN LOCKED/ANTI-GRIND OUTPUT not used
6 BROWN (-) 200mA HORN OUTPUT optional
7 RED/WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT ** not used
8 BLACK GROUND INPUT Chassis Ground
9 WHITE (+/-) LIGHT FLASH OUTPUT*
Remote Start harness, 5-pin connector
1 BLACK/WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT Chassis Ground if Auto Trans**
2 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT Suitable Tach signal
3 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT (+) Brake wire at pedal
4 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN SWITCH SHUTDOWN INPUT to kit supplied hood pin
5 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200 mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUTnot used
Heavy Gauge Relay, 6-pin connector
1 PINK OUTPUT TO PRIMARY IGNITION CIRCUIT Jeep Ignition wire
2 PURPLE OUTPUT TO STARTER CIRCUIT Jeep Starter wire
3 ORANGE OUTPUT TO ACCESSORY CIRCUIT Jeep Accessory wire
4 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUT Suitable +12V constant
5 PINK/WHITE OUTPUT TO SECOND IGNITION/ACCESSORY CIRCUIT optional***
6 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUT Suitable +12V constant
Satellite harness - 4-pin connector
1 BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT not used
2 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUTnot used
3 PURPLE (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT not used
4 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION OUTPUT not used
Here is a link to a decent video that explains the ignition wire functions and proper testing procedure :
https://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/installationvideo.html
You will have to test the Jeeps ignition wires to determine how many of each type you have ( IGN, ACC,
Starter ). The Viper can supply ones of each and has the capability to supply one extra IGFN or ACC wire
with the ***Pink/White wire and programming. If you have more that 4 ignition type wires, you will need
30/40 Amp relays and use the Satellite harness outputs to control them.
* For the Parking Lights, test to see what type of signal is found at the Headlight switch, set the Viper's
jumper/fuse to the correct polarity and make the connection.
** If your Jeep has a manual transmission, the Viper 4115 is the wrong R/S unit and SHOULD NOT be
installed. You will need a MT safe R/S unit. They are more expensive but provide proper protection for
those MT vehicles.
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Posted By: parkin80
Date Posted: June 25, 2017 at 11:10 PM
Thanks for the help. I got it installed and working. Only issues seem to be that the hood pop cut off isn't working and I'm not sure where to wire in the system cut off toggle switch. Just going by wire size and color coding I was thinking inline with the safety neutral/ ground wire, but I'm not sure.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: June 26, 2017 at 6:22 PM
You can test the Hood pin input by touching that Gray wire to chassis ground. That ground signal should shut down the remote started engine or prevent a remote start up.
You can add the switch inline on the Vipers Neutral safety wire. If / when the switch is open, the remote start function will be disabled.
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Posted By: parkin80
Date Posted: June 26, 2017 at 6:59 PM
Yeah, I done realized the hood pin gremlin is an grounding issue. Now for some reason the brake cut off is giving me fits. It worked fine yesterday but today I went back and rerouted some wires to move them higher out of the way and then it started popping fuses when ever the brake pedal is pressed and wouldn't shut of the remote start. I removed the switch and hooked it back up and it stopped popping fuses but still won't shut off the remote start. When I ground out the Brown wire from the Viper unit with the test light it shuts off.
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: June 27, 2017 at 6:01 AM
The Viper Brown Brake input wire should need a (+) signal to shutdown the R/S'd engine. Guess you should double check all you connections. The Chassis Ground point should be with a soldered on terminal ring to solid frame with no rust or paint. All connections should be soldered and insulated with quality electric tape like Scotch Super 33+. Make sure all the Viper connectors are fully seated in place.
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Posted By: parkin80
Date Posted: June 27, 2017 at 2:24 PM
I have the Viper Brown Brake wired up as it should be and I fixed the Hood Pin grounding issue. The problem actually seems to be in my column. I'm thinking I have a short somewhere. The turning signals are doing some funky stuff then stop working. Then one will work and the other won't. Wiggle the turning signal lever and then they swap. For a while yesterday step on the brakes and the both turning signal indicators would light up. Wiggle the lever more and then the Viper unit works perfectly. And add the fact the horn has never worked, I think I have an issue in my column. I really appreciate the help you have provided
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: June 27, 2017 at 6:01 PM
Hopefully a separate issue. It really doesn't sound like something the R/S system would create. If it is a new issue, double check any vehicle connectors you might have disconnected or moved / shifted around.
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Posted By: parkin80
Date Posted: June 27, 2017 at 6:05 PM
No, I'm not saying the remote start caused it. I'm thinking my column might be causing issues with the remote start.
Posted By: nadorp
Date Posted: October 31, 2017 at 10:37 PM
I too am installing this system in my 03 Ford E150.
Could you please clarify this?
"* For the Parking Lights, test to see what type of signal is found at the Headlight switch, set the Viper's
jumper/fuse to the correct polarity and make the connection."
How do I test what type of signal I have, and how would I know the correct polarity to install the jumper?
One more question, please,
For the heavy gauge relay 6 pin connector. My van's wire harness has 2-12v input wires, 3-ignition wires, 2-accessary wires and 1-starter wire.
Do I need to use the satellite harness with relays? If i do, how would I install that, and what will I need to purchase?
Thanks so much!
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Jim
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 01, 2017 at 6:09 AM
2003 Econoline E150 van
Info from 12Volt Forum
Constant 12V+ Yellow Ignition Switch Harness
Starter White/Pink Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition Red/Light Green Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition 2 Black/Light Green Ignition Switch Harness
Accessory Gray/Yellow Ignition Switch Harness (Heat/AC)
Parking Lights Brown (+) Light Switch or 6 Pin Connector Driver's Kick Panel
Info from Bulldog Security
12 VOLT CONSTANT YELLOW (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
STARTER WHITE/PINK (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
STARTER 2 N/A
IGNITION 1 RED/GREEN (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 2 BLACK/GREEN (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 3 N/A
ACCESSORY/HEATER BLOWER 1 GRAY/YELLOW (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
ACCESSORY/HEATER BLOWER 2 N/A
PARKING LIGHTS ( + ) BROWN (+) IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL, HARNESS to REAR of VEHICLE
Info from Omega
Constant 12 volts YELLOW (2) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition RED/LT.GREEN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #2 BLACK/LT.GREEN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #3 D GREEN/YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS ABS LIGHT
Starter WHITE/PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory GRAY/YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory #2
Parking Lamp (+) BROWN (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
As you can see the wiring info varies so you will have to test the ignition wires at the main ignition switch
harness to veriry each ones function. You may not need to power all of them for a basic remote start system.
Suggested wiring with 4115V to 2003 Ford E130 Econoline van
Primary Harness, 9-pin connector
1 LIGHT GREEN BLACK (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT
2 GREEN/WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM REARM OUTPUT
3 YELLOW (+) IGNITION OUT (TO ALARM) not used
4 WHITE/BLUE (-) ACTIVATION INPUT not used
5 ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN LOCKED/ANTI-GRIND OUTPUT not used
6 BROWN (-) 200mA HORN OUTPUT optional
7 RED/WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT not used
8 BLACK GROUND INPUT Chassis Ground
9 WHITE (+/-) LIGHT FLASH OUTPUT * set to (+) BROWN (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Heavy Gauge Relay, 6-pin connector
1 PINK OUTPUT TO PRIMARY IGNITION CIRCUIT RED/Light GREEN (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
2 PURPLE OUTPUT TO STARTER CIRCUITWHITE/PINK (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
3 ORANGE OUTPUT TO ACCESSORY CIRCUIT GRAY/YELLOW (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
4 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUTYELLOW#1 (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
5 PINK/WHITE OUTPUT TO SECOND IGNITION/ACC BLACK/Light GREEN (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
6 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUTYELLOW#2 (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Satellite harness - 4-pin connector
1 BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT not used
2 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT not used
3 PURPLE (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT not used
4 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION OUTPUT to extra relay Pin 85
Extra relay ( 30/40 Amp SPDT Bosch style relay w/ harness )
Relay Pin 85 to Viper thin Pink (-) 200mA Ignition Output
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to suitable +12V constant through 25 Amp fuse
Relay Pin 30 to Ignition #3, Dark GREEN/YELLOW @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
If you find an additional Accessory type wire you can use the above relay wiring as a guide and the Vipers
thin Orange (-) 200mA Accessory Output for Pin 85. Relay Pin 30 would go to the vans ACC2 wire.
For wire testing, a basic computer safe test LED light or Digital Multi Meter is suggested. Set the DMM
to +20 Volts DC, Black lead to Chassis Ground and Red lead to suspect wire.
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Posted By: nadorp
Date Posted: November 01, 2017 at 6:32 PM
Got it! Awesome info. Thanks for all your help!
Where does the jumper for the parking lights go?
Thanks!
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Jim
Posted By: kreg357
Date Posted: November 01, 2017 at 6:55 PM
a picture is worth a thousand words.....
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Posted By: nadorp
Date Posted: November 01, 2017 at 8:13 PM
That is Awesome!
Thanks for that pic.
Cheers!
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Jim
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