help! roll up window module when armed
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: help! roll up window module when armed
Posted By: jac2
Subject: help! roll up window module when armed
Date Posted: September 14, 2003 at 5:49 PM
hi! im trying to install window module to roll up when i arm the alarm. i already installed hornet 554t in my 2000 honda accord v6 coupe.and the window module, it didnt come wtth the instruction just little diagram on back of box and back of module . so what should be tap in to ALARM ACCESSORY ITEM?is it going to accessory wire under the ignition?? and what i have to connect to LEFT MOTOR and LEFT SWITCH?? when i only know window up/down wires from the database.it doesnt show any window switch wire or the motor wires!and am i able to get all the wires from left window since it can controls the passenger side too!???thanks in advance!
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Posted By: mazdatruckin
Date Posted: September 14, 2003 at 8:37 PM
The alarm accessory item should be hooked to an auxilary output of your alarm system. You press the button to vent the windows or if you hold it you can put it all the way down. Don't hook it to the ignition because its probably looking for a (-) pulse, not a positive one. That may blow the fuse on the unit. You should have the wires for the up and down movement. What you do is cut each wire in half. Connect the motor side to the side going to the motor, and wire the switch side to the the switch. You can do both windows in the driver's door! Thats it. Pretty simple.
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: September 15, 2003 at 6:25 AM
Which module are you installing?
I agree with mazdatruckin's answers. The ALARM ACCESSORY wire from the module goes to your alarm's auxillary output, so you can control the windows with the remote.
If the module doesn't add 1-touch (up and down) to your windows, then yes, I think you can just grab the wires for both doors in the driver's door. If it does add 1-touch, and you want the passenger door switch to have 1-touch, then you have to drag wires into that door, too. ------------- Q: What's the best nation in the world?
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Posted By: mazdatruckin
Date Posted: September 15, 2003 at 6:49 AM
Oh and if you are adding one touch to the passenger window, make sure to use no less than 16 AWG wire. It's a long run and these wires need to carry some current. But IMHO, it's easier to leave the passenger switch alone. It's funny when it has auto down and the passenger is trying to figure out how to stop it. No one thinks to hit the switch again. Oh well good luck!
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: September 15, 2003 at 7:09 AM
haha, I think it's funny  When a passenger holds the switch to shut the window the whole way, I open it right back up, and tell them to use the 1-touch! I didn't drag the wires all the way over there for nothin'! :-) ------------- Q: What's the best nation in the world?
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Posted By: gonderoo
Date Posted: September 15, 2003 at 7:57 PM
I've been reading a few of the posts here and I'm still kinda lost. I just installed the hornet 544T over the weekend (the entire weekend LOL) along with the 530T window control module. The alarm and remote start work great the windows on the other hand dont 1 touch they vent hold the aux for a few secs and they go all the way down but when arming they both go up half way and stop then I have too roll them both up maually about 2" @ a time.I've double and triple checked my grounds and connections any help would greatly be appreciated ------------- Tom
Posted By: 80085
Date Posted: September 15, 2003 at 8:59 PM
i ran the wiring for my smart windows 4 accessory to the switches in the driver's door for both windows. i don't care if the passenger has one-touch up/down. since i'm the one drivin', i need the one-touch.
Posted By: jac2
Date Posted: September 15, 2003 at 10:33 PM
thanks for your reply guys! so basically 2 wires tap together to each motor wire and each switch wire right? for example---lets say black wire = up
white = down then, cut each wire in half and tap motor side black+white wires to motor side wire and switch side black+white wires to switch wire in window module? and can i leave the accessory item wire alone? because i already used aux button for my remote trunk.is there any other ways?if not then maybe i just want it to roll up only when its armed.do i still have to tap accessory wire to aux output or somewhere else?i dont know what brand, it came in a black box and said power window control module.it is bonus pack with alarm.btw seller said 1 module roll 2 windows up.2 modules roll 4 windows up or 2 windows up&down.4 modules roll 4 windows roll up&down and i only have 1 module!
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: September 18, 2003 at 8:53 AM
gonderoo wrote:
I've been reading a few of the posts here and I'm still kinda lost. I just installed the hornet 544T over the weekend (the entire weekend LOL) along with the 530T window control module. The alarm and remote start work great the windows on the other hand dont 1 touch they vent hold the aux for a few secs and they go all the way down but when arming they both go up half way and stop then I have too roll them both up maually about 2" @ a time.I've double and triple checked my grounds and connections any help would greatly be appreciated
You might want to check the dipswitches on the module. (If it has dipswitches....I think some of the older modules don't have them). If it's stopping in the middle, then I think you have to change the resistance. Go here if you need a manual.------------- Q: What's the best nation in the world?
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Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: September 18, 2003 at 8:57 AM
jac2]t wrote:
anks for your reply guys! so basically 2 wires tap together to each motor wire and each switch wire right? for example---lets say black wire = up
white = down
then, cut each wire in half and tap motor side black+white wires to motor side wire and switch side black+white wires to switch wire in window module?
and can i leave the accessory item wire alone? because i already used aux button for my remote trunk.is there any other ways?if not then maybe i just want it to roll up only when its armed.do i still have to tap accessory wire to aux output or somewhere else?i dont know what brand, it came in a black box and said power window control module.it is bonus pack with alarm.btw seller said 1 module roll 2 windows up.2 modules roll 4 windows up or 2 windows up&down.4 modules roll 4 windows roll up&down and i only have 1 module!
For the driver's door, there should be 1 wire for up and 1 wire for down in the car. Let's take the UP wire first. You cut that wire between the switch and the motor....so you now have a SWITCH UP side and a MOTOR UP side of the wire. Then the same for the car's DOWN wire. When you cut that wire in half, you'll have a SWITCH DOWN side and a MOTOR DOWN side. Now, I'm not positive how your module works, but there should be 4 wires for the driver's door: SWITCH UP, SWITCH DOWN, MOTOR UP, MOTOR DOWN. You just hook up the 4 wires from the module to the corresponding 4 wires from the door.
Now, since you said your module does 2 windows, there should be another set of 4 wires to do the same thing to the passenger side door's wires.
As for the windows rolling up when you arm (if your module does this) you should have an orange "ground when armed" wire on the module, which will connect to the orange "ground when armed" wire on your alarm (assuming the wires you need are orange). You connect those two together, and it should roll the windows up upon arming. Just be sure to use a diode if you're already using the alarm's orange wire for something else (like a starter kill).
As for not using the aux channel to roll them down, I guess you can just tape up the module's wire if you're not going to use it.
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Posted By: gonderoo
Date Posted: September 18, 2003 at 10:49 AM
All the dipswitches are set to there highest setting. I have even played around and tried all the differant settings the highest one is by far the closest but still not right. I did use 16ga. wire I thought that we be heavy enough but other guys are saying 12 or even 10 cant really see how that would make that much of a diiferance? Any other suggestions?
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Tom
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: September 18, 2003 at 12:50 PM
Ok, so you said when you use the remote, the windows vent fine, and also roll all the way down fine. But when you arm....they only roll up a little. And then when you use the switch, it does the same thing. Just wanted to make sure we're on the right track.
Well, at the end of the manual, it says if you already have 1-touch windows in your car, to make sure you're interfacing the module right at the motor and not at the switch. I'm not positive what that means, but maybe it means that you should be connecting your wires closer to the motor than the switch. Just an idea.
It also says to see what happens when you press on the glass to help it up, or try to stop it. But that deals with the efficiency...and you said you tried that stuff.
Personally, I put in thicker wire than 16awg. I think it was 10 or 12. Does one window work better than the other? ------------- Q: What's the best nation in the world?
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Posted By: gonderoo
Date Posted: September 18, 2003 at 3:05 PM
Im sorry I did use 14awg and as far as my connections I made them closer to the motor. If I help the window just a little bit it goes up all the way driver and passenger. Both wimdows are acting the same, they both go up 1/2 way then stop. I've tried just doing 1 window @ a time and about every 3rd time it will go up by itself but like I said thats just doing 1 @ a time?
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Tom
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: September 18, 2003 at 10:00 PM
Does your car already have 1-touch?
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Posted By: gonderoo
Date Posted: September 19, 2003 at 5:30 AM
Yes it does. And its a 01 Chevy Silverado... ------------- Tom
Posted By: jac2
Date Posted: September 19, 2003 at 7:50 PM
hey guys,how do i find out which wires for controlling passengers window from drivers side??the data base only tell LF and RF wires from those particular place .i dont want to drag all the way from RF to LF!and looks ugly,so i test the voltage and cannot find any common voltage as LF up/down and RF up/down.they read aobut 12volts when i roll either up or down and either close to 0 voltage when up or down depends on pressing up or down.and also how do i find power sunroof wires??
Posted By: rpm510
Date Posted: September 20, 2003 at 12:09 AM
cpgoose wrote:
gonderoo wrote:
I've been reading a few of the posts here and I'm still kinda lost. I just installed the hornet 544T over the weekend (the entire weekend LOL) along with the 530T window control module. The alarm and remote start work great the windows on the other hand dont 1 touch they vent hold the aux for a few secs and they go all the way down but when arming they both go up half way and stop then I have too roll them both up maually about 2" @ a time.I've double and triple checked my grounds and connections any help would greatly be appreciated
You might want to check the dipswitches on the module. (If it has dipswitches....I think some of the older modules don't have them). If it's stopping in the middle, then I think you have to change the resistance. Go here if you need a manual.
With that problem, most of the time the windows is having a hard time to roll up because you need to clean the track. The track or the rail is dirty and can't roll up smoothly. Try to spray some DW40 or some gease on the track or rail so the glass can roll up without any resistance.
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: September 22, 2003 at 10:52 AM
jac2] wrote:
hey guys,how do i find out which wires for controlling passengers window from drivers side??the data base only tell LF and RF wires from those particular place .i dont want to drag all the way from RF to LF!and looks ugly,so i test the voltage and cannot find any common voltage as LF up/down and RF up/down.they read aobut 12volts when i roll either up or down and either close to 0 voltage when up or down depends on pressing up or down.and also how do i find power sunroof wires??
Shouldn't it just be the same color wire, only it's at the driver's door? ------------- Q: What's the best nation in the world?
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Posted By: jac2
Date Posted: September 23, 2003 at 9:29 PM
nop!i thought their same color as well and they should be, but its not.and i test the voltage none of them reads same voltage equal to 12 or 0 volts which are voltage reading of my windows when theyre up or down,either one.
Posted By: cpgoose
Date Posted: September 24, 2003 at 6:44 AM
I can't find the wiring diagram for your car anywhere. I found one on Bulldog's website, but it didn't have the window wires. Where'd you find the diagram? ------------- Q: What's the best nation in the world?
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Posted By: jac2
Date Posted: September 24, 2003 at 7:09 PM
i look through vehicle data base section in this site and i find 2~3 wiring diagram for my car .
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