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Tachometer wire, phoenix digital PD175?

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: Tachometer wire, phoenix digital PD175?

Posted By: UncleJohnzy
Subject: Tachometer wire, phoenix digital PD175?
Date Posted: November 29, 2003 at 12:50 AM

Have anyone try phoenix digital PD175? it doesn't support the tachometer wire, or the manual is not clearly stated which.  However, instead, it gives a wire saying to connect it to oil sensor or oil signal on the dashboard..."never heard of that". this wire should read 12v when engine sucessfully started.  hmm, I wonder if this is the tach wire they meant.

Also, it doesn't say how to program for tachless mode, nor run time. my guess is the unit doesn't support it. Please help if you have info on this/




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Posted By: HamiltonAudio
Date Posted: November 29, 2003 at 1:02 PM

tach signal is AC and I've never seen it much past 3 or 4 volts, never even close to 12.  I'm thinking this is an alternator field wire, that detects alternator output when engine is running.  How about installing a product that looks for a tach signal??

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Posted By: ossrom
Date Posted: November 29, 2003 at 2:20 PM
in my opinion , cheaply designed, however just conect that wire to true ignition (ignition1). this alarm works great in diessel truks with no tahc signal but for gasoline cars is not so great, ther's no way to contral the crnk time on the alarm.




Posted By: UncleJohnzy
Date Posted: November 30, 2003 at 11:22 PM

Thanx for the info, Ossrom, it's cheapy like you said, but it has nice lcd pager though.  Also, didn't come with the hood pin, do you know any substitude?... how to program its run time?...

What would be a good starter only with 2-way remote, and great range?... any recommend?..





Posted By: superchuckles
Date Posted: December 29, 2003 at 2:35 PM

lies lies...... why is it i'm the only one who seems to have figured out that all you need to do is hook the wire from the alarm that is supposed to go to the oil pressure sensor, instead to the alternator field wire.  on really old cars, the oil sensor would work fine - here's how the alarm determines if the engine is running: 

sensor wire reading low: engine not running (i.e. no oil pressure)

sensor wire reading high: engine running (oil pressure brings the sensor up off the ground, and so the wire reads high from the voltage either across the light bulb, or the oil pressure guage)

the solution is simple and actually works better than using the oil pressure sensor - especially on late model fords that the sensor is of a totally different type -- connect that wire to the field wire on the alternator instead.... engine not running, field wire reads low (i.e. alternator light on dash is lit) -- once engine starts, field wire reads high (and makes the light go out).  i don't know why the alarm manufacturer didn't figure out that, but they should have.  so should anyone else with basic vehicle electrical skills.





Posted By: nguyen
Date Posted: January 23, 2004 at 3:24 AM
I did installed PD-175 on Toyota Celica 2000, I find the oil sensor wire just next to oil filter. It show 12 volt when engine run and 0 volt when engine stop.





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