2001 Civic remote start/alarm
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Topic: 2001 Civic remote start/alarm
Posted By: crewdog10
Subject: 2001 Civic remote start/alarm
Date Posted: January 03, 2004 at 11:22 AM
Hello, I have a quick question about bypassing my 2k1 civic. I'm going to use this method https://www.velocitymotorsport.com/images/install_notes/146.jpg but I'm wondering if it is ok to connect my yellow start wire to the clutch switch, because it is a 14 awg, 30amp output. Will there be a problem connecting it to the thinner wires? This is my first time putting in a remote start and I greatly appreciate the help.
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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: January 03, 2004 at 5:47 PM
That method won't work on a Honda....Its more for GM and Chrysler vehicles. Hondas work differently. There are probably two connectors each with two wires going to the clutch. First, unplug one of the two connectors going to the clutch. Push in clutch and try to start the car with the key. If it doesn't start, you have the right switch. Once you identify the right switch, test the two wires at the switch. One will show ground all the time, the other will show ground only when the clutch is pushed in about 95% or more (switch must be plugged in at this point). You need to supply ground to the wire that shows ground only when pushed all the way in. Can be accomplished with a relay....I use the following method. There are other ways to do it.
86 - starter wire
85 - ground when running
87 - wire at clutch switch
30 - other wire at clutch switch
When the remote start goes to crank, 30 and 87 get connected together allowing the starter to crank. This way the clutch switch works the same way as if someone was stepping on it.
What are you using for a remote starter? I hope its designed for standards.
Posted By: crewdog10
Date Posted: January 03, 2004 at 6:23 PM
I'm installing a Ultrastart 4500 designed for manuals. Luckily I have a spare relay. I'll give it a try and let you know how it works out, thanks alot!
Posted By: crewdog10
Date Posted: January 04, 2004 at 12:17 PM
Today I was putting the remote starter/ alarm on my 2k1 civic. When I tapped into the RED / black wire (parking lights) behind the fuse box I heard a noise. I figured that I screwed something up, so I checked the lights, and the front headlights/parkinglights are dead. I checked the fuses and they all appeared to be good. What do you guys think I did?
Posted By: Scott35
Date Posted: January 04, 2004 at 12:21 PM
Did you check the fuses under the hood?
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Tacomacrew
Posted By: crewdog10
Date Posted: January 04, 2004 at 1:31 PM
Yes, I checked all of the fuses. I wonder if I accidentally grounded out the wire. If so, what would that do? I thought the fuses would protect it. I'm guessing now that it is either the relay or the switch, but I don't know how to check it. If the lights do not work in any switch position, Is there a master fuse for all front lighting? I'm stuck, thanks again for any help.
Posted By: crewdog10
Date Posted: January 05, 2004 at 5:32 AM
Well, I finally got everything working again. It seems that I damaged the wire. It was on back of the fuse box and was a real Bia*&@ to fix properly. Luckily now my lights are working again. All of the wires are run to the brain and the alarm is working properly. My remote start is giving me trouble though. When I press button 3, my car gives me a diagnostic code that the car has not been set into reservation mode. To put my car into reservation, I have to: -set the parking brake, and press the brake pedal twice. -my car flashes twice to let me know that it is working -when I take the key out of the ignition, my car should keep running(it turns off) -then close the doors, and my car should be set. I guess the first problem is to check the transponder operation. I'm a little unsure exactly where the lasso should go. Next, I'm going to shoot the wires from the harness that are coming off of the ignition. Has anyone ever had a similar situation?
Posted By: crewdog10
Date Posted: January 08, 2004 at 1:51 PM
OK, I'm truely stumped here and asking the pro's for some help. I put a remote start/alarm on a 2001 civic. The alarm portion works flawlessly. On the remote start, the car will stay running after I put it in reserve mode, and then shuts down after I close the door. When I press the start button, the lights turn on in the cluster as if it is about to start. Then they shut down and nothing happens. I tried it with the clutch depressed to check the bypass. I checked it with the key in the ignition to check the transponder bypass (which I assume the vehicle would still crank if it were the transponder). I checked the starter relay in 3 different configurations, I'm using the normally closed configuration. The diagnostics code gives me 7 quick flashes, meaning "tach lock," but I know the tach signal is good because the car will tach learn when I start it after a reset. What's next, to troubleshoot?
Posted By: mikeshonda750
Date Posted: January 08, 2004 at 2:48 PM
I work with the ultrastarts every day... you have your door trigger wired backwards.... you probably used a + trigger wire and its a - trigger. The manual versions were designed to shut off when the door is opened to prevent someone from knocking it into gear. So.... instead of using the + use the -.. or viceversa.... it may also require the use of a relay. So... lemme ask.... which wire did you use for your alarm domelight supervision?
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Posted By: mikeshonda750
Date Posted: January 08, 2004 at 2:52 PM
Sorry.. just re-read your post... Tach lockout means your transponder bypass unit is not working properly. Move the wires around the ignition cylinder... move the key around inside the bypass box.... what bypass are you using again? you want this bypass to only be active when the R/S is on... so dont use your BLUE or WHITE ignition wires... you will have to wire up a relay to use the "Ground when armed/running" wire to trigger the relay, turning the bypass on, making it only work when the RS is activated.
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Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: January 08, 2004 at 2:58 PM
sorry cant help you w/ the remote start. either the clutch or the starter wire form the unit. does the car crank manually at all?
a lil tip: next time if youre to install another civic like that, drop down the whole fuse panel and from there it should be piece of cake. so you dont worry about messing up wire. pretty amazing how you got ur hands all the way up there.
btw....i used 555i(no key, only 4 wires hooking up to the transponder ring, i used gray key) and it works out great.
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Houston,TX
"The two most common elements in the universe are H+ and stupidity" (Ellison).
Posted By: ossrom
Date Posted: January 08, 2004 at 9:49 PM
ok....i'm not very familiar with your alarm how ever.....
to test your transponder you could power up the transponder and the car wires (ignition switch wire) manually and crank it with no key in the ignition......if transponder and wiring is good the car will start...... if wires are good but transponder is not it will only crank, if it doesn't even crank you need to recheck your wires...........
as far as setting your alarm into reserve mode, you need to read your manual more carefully, because you need to program the brain itself to recognize reserve mode, some alarms have a wire loop on the brain you need to cut, others you need to program bypressing a combination o bottons on your remotes......best advise take your time and re-read the manual carefully
Posted By: crewdog10
Date Posted: January 14, 2004 at 1:16 AM
What is the purpose of the orange (antigrind/starter kill) wire on my remote starter? If your remote starter has a built in starter kill relay, how do you wire it into the system? In the starter relay diagrams, does (12v+ ign) refer to my car ignition, or the ignition (yellow wire from my remote starter)?
Posted By: sroth140
Date Posted: January 14, 2004 at 1:23 AM
anti grind breaks the starter wire connection from the key cylander to the starter motor. that way, if you put the key in and accidentally crank, the starter motor wont get the signal. it is commonly called an anti grind circuit but its basically a starter kill. the remote start will use the 12v+ constant wires to out put 12v+ through the ignition wires to the cars ignition harness. thats what the relays control.
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