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03 Dodge Ram Remote Start

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 15, 2024 at 3:16 PM


Topic: 03 Dodge Ram Remote Start

Posted By: CharlzO
Subject: 03 Dodge Ram Remote Start
Date Posted: January 15, 2004 at 1:39 PM

I'm preparing to install an Omega Remote Start (the little, basic version) into an 03 Dodge Ram. The owner told me that it has the panic/factory anti-theft (i.e. someone breaks a window, the horn goes off-kinda thing), so I believe it's factory-keyless entry. Am I going to run into any problems with this? I've installed the same system in a 96 Contour, and 99 Taurus, neither of which were keyless from factory, and so neither required anything. I just want to know if I'm going to have horns and everything blaring at me when I'm done.

I'm doing this one as a favor, since they couldn't find anyone to do it. I normally install stereos, but since I've done this in the other two cars (my wifes, and a friends), I got roped into this one, so I'm really a novice when it comes to THIS stuff. Any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks!

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Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: January 15, 2004 at 3:35 PM
no you shouldnt.....call 1-800-554-4053 and hit 0 when the recording starts...wait for them to pick up and tell them what kind of truck you have and they can send the info to you...the site is down or i would send the info my self...

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Posted By: mxxmikexx
Date Posted: January 15, 2004 at 3:41 PM
Hope this helps you. If the truck has a factory alarm, yes you are going to have to interface your new unit to disarm the vehicles factory alarm.Check before you start working on it, lock the truck with the remote/ordoorlock switch, let the truck sit for a while, reach inside an manually unlock the door, open the door and see if the alarm sounds.


Audiovox Tech Support 500034 FaxBack ID:
DODGE RAM 1500 2003 2DR TRUCK
Security Color Polarity Location
Battery RED /WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
- Note ALSO PINK/BLACK AT IGN HARNESS
Ignition 1 DRK. BLUE 16 GAUGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
All Door Trigger BROWN (-) DRIVERS B PILLAR
- Note ON FOUR DOOR MODELS, THE LF DOOR TRIGGER IS TAN, AND THE LR DOOR IS TAN/ORANGE OR
PURPLE / ORANGE. THESE WIRES ARE IN THE DRIVER KICK PANEL. THE RF DOOR TRIGGER IS TAN/RED, AND
THE RR DOOR IS TAN / YELLOW. THESE WIRES ARE IN THE PASSENGER KICK PANEL. USE
LF Latch TAN (-) DRIVERS KICK PANNEL
RF Latch TAN/RED (-) DRIVERS KICK PANNEL
Alarm Disarm LIGHT GREEN/ ORANGE (-) DR. KICK GROUND PULSE THROUGH 1500 OHM
- Note CAN ALSO BE 480 OHM TO DISARM
Alarm Arm LIGHT GREEN/ ORANGE (-) DR. KICK GROUND PULSE THROUGH 760 OHM
Parking Lights VIOLET / YELLOW (-) AT SWITCH
- Note USE A 320 (OR A 1.4K) OHM RESISTOR
USE RELAY TO ISOLATE FROM SWITCH
Remote Start
Battery RED /WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
- Note ALSO PINK/BLACK AT IGN HARNESS
Ignition 1 DRK. BLUE 16 GAUGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 2 RED (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
- Note GREEN & ORANGE ARE OFF DURING CRANK. BOTH NEED TO BE POWERED BY A RELAY FROM THE REMOTE
START.
RED / WHITE IS IGNITION 3 ON DURING CRANK. MUST USE (-) IGNITION 3 TO TRIGGER A RELAY.
Ignition 3 RED / WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
- Note GREEN & ORANGE ARE OFF DURING CRANK. BOTH NEED TO BE POWERED BY A RELAY FROM THE REMOTE
START.
RED / WHITE IS IGNITION 3 ON DURING CRANK. MUST USE LIGHT. BLUE (-) IGNITION 3 TO TRIGGER A RELAY.
Accessory 1 BLACK/ WHITE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory 2 BLACK/ ORANGE (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory 3 ORANGE (+) 1500 ONLY
Starter 1 YELLOW (+) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Anti-Theft Descript NONE
Key Sense BLUE (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety BLACK/ WHITE (-) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Tachometer RED / BLACK (AC) AT COIL ON DRV.SIDE OF ENGINE
- Note ALSO BLACK/ GREY AT COIL
OR USE THE UNCOMMON COLORED WIRE AT THE INDIVIDUAL COILS OR AT A FUEL INJECTOR.
DIESEL, GRAY/BLACK IN THE LARGE HARNESS THAT RUNS ALONG THE PASSENGER FIREWALL
Wait To Start ORANGE / BLACK AT ECM ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE FIREWALL
Speed Sense LIGHT GREEN / WHITE PIN 13 OF 38 PIN BLACK CONN
Parking Lights VIOLET / YELLOW (-) AT SWITCH
- Note USE A 320 (OR A 1.4K) OHM RESISTOR
USE RELAY TO ISOLATE FROM SWITCH
Brake Lights WHITE/ TAN (+) AT BRAKE SWITCH
Reverse Lights VIOLET/BLACK (+) 16 PIN GRY CONN DRIVERS DASH
Horn BLACK/ RED (-) 74 PIN CONN BEHIND DR. DASH OR COLUMN
Doorlocks/Windows
Power Unlock WHITE/ GREEN (-) DR. KICK PANEL USE 320 OHM RESISTOR
PowerLock WHITE/ GREEN (-) DR. KICK USE 680 OR 815 OHM RESISTOR
Driver Mtr Unlock PINK/BLACK (REV) LEFT KICK PANEL
Driver Mtr Lock ORANGE / BLACK (REV) LEFT KICK PANEL
Pas Mtr Unlock PINK/VIOLET (REV) LEFT KICK PANEL
LF Window Up WHITE (REV) AT THE MASTER SWITCH
LF Window Dn LIGHT BLUE (REV) AT THE MASTER SWITCH
RF Window Up BROWN / WHITE (REV) AT THE MASTER SWITCH
RF Window Dn VIOLET/WHITE (REV) AT THE MASTER SWITCH
LR Window Up DARK BLUE/WHITE (REV) AT THE MASTER SWITCH

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Mike Battaglia
Specialized Car Audio
Bensenville IL 60106




Posted By: CharlzO
Date Posted: January 15, 2004 at 3:48 PM
Thanks for the replies! I'll be doing this in about two and a half hours from now, hopefully in a garage, since I'm in NY *lol*. But thanks again, and if I run into anything else, I'll be back on later. Thanks!

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I had bad credit. Anyone have any they can loan me? lol




Posted By: CharlzO
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 1:27 PM
Stupid Dodge. *lol* . I haven't figured out the source of the problem yet. When I use the remote start, it starts fine, then immediately shuts off. Three seconds later, it tries to start again, and same thing. I tried the "Smart Start" adjustments and all. Hopefully, their tech support can shed some light on this subject.

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I had bad credit. Anyone have any they can loan me? lol




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 2:14 PM
Did you properly learn the tach signal to the remote start unit ? Also, if the truck's key is a GRAY key, then you have an immobilizer key that requires bypassing.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA




Posted By: daniel2002p
Date Posted: January 16, 2004 at 6:44 PM
It most probably need tach relearning, and as said by Velocity Motors if you have a grey key, then a 555u is also required to bypass the factory fuel shut off.

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Posted By: CharlzO
Date Posted: January 17, 2004 at 11:50 AM
It's a black key, so hopefully, I won't need the unit. I haven't tried the tach-mode yet, that will be probably my next attempt. The Smart Start mode, takes the direct hook-up to the battery, and acts as a voltage sensor, just to see when the voltage changes when the vehicle starts. But maybe something in there is not working properly or something, so maybe tach mode will work better. We'll see.

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Posted By: mahicks
Date Posted: January 17, 2004 at 8:21 PM
hmmmmmm, I'm having the "same" exact issue with my install on my 99 Dodge.  Hopefully the answer for yours will be the same for mine :-)




Posted By: jaurora
Date Posted: January 19, 2004 at 3:36 PM

I just did an alarm and a remote starter on my 2001 ram. The reason this is happening is because of the keyless entry. Under the dash to the right of the steering colum is a black box with 2 harnesses in it. this is the factory box. Bypass it with a wire out of the remote starter that pulses a ground when the remote start is activated. Attach a 1.5k ohm resistor to the wire and attach the other lead of the resistor to an ORANGE / green wire coming out of the box. This will solve all your problems



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Jeremy




Posted By: CharlzO
Date Posted: January 23, 2004 at 11:08 PM
Well, FINALLY finished this stupid thing today. Resistor didn't help at all, but it's there now anyway. Turns out the Remote start I was using just won't operate right in this truck under Smart Start (tachless) mode. I ran the line to the coil, switched it over, and bingo. The only thing that doesn't work right, is the parking lights, but he didn't care about that in the first place. The only other thing I ran into, was that the wiring list I had, I couldn't find both accessory wires. I located the main power feed for the HVAC controls and wipers and such, but the radio won't run at all until the key is in it. Then again, if there's no one in the truck, who's listening? Thanks again to everyone who helped me out! I owe ya guys!

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I had bad credit. Anyone have any they can loan me? lol




Posted By: Alpine Guy
Date Posted: January 24, 2004 at 1:54 PM

ya, i just did a 2003 ram, and i couldn't get the parking lights to work either.  I used the negative resitor based relay , with a 340ohm resistor. (thats what autostart suggested), and it dosn't work.  on monday i get the truck back, and i will find the parking lights where they turn into a positive signal after a relay in the truck.





Posted By: njcartronics
Date Posted: January 24, 2004 at 5:12 PM
I think some of my techs have been finding the parking lights under the hood, heading to the parking lights themselves, and using it as a + connection.

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-Paul
Southern NJ




Posted By: tblanning
Date Posted: January 24, 2004 at 5:45 PM
 This Is A Single Wire System. Parking Lights Need To See A Ground (-) Through A 1.4 K-Ohm Resistor. Headlights Need To See A Ground (-) Through A 1.8 K-Ohm Resistor.




Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: January 25, 2004 at 4:38 PM
also, the parklight wire rests at ground, so you need to wire it to interupt the line when the RS is pulsing the lights




Posted By: CharlzO
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 1:01 PM
yuck. Glad the guy didn't really care about the lights!

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I had bad credit. Anyone have any they can loan me? lol




Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: January 27, 2004 at 2:26 PM
On late model Rams you can also get positive lights under the hood...it's a BLACK / YELLOW wire under the fuse/relay center. Easiest way to get to it is to take out the driver's side headlight(I think it's just 3 bolts).





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