Help with remote start 2000 Grand am GT

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Topic: Help with remote start 2000 Grand am GT

Posted By: Rain77man
Subject: Help with remote start 2000 Grand am GT
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 11:09 PM

I took a shot at installing a remote start in my gf's GT today without much success, so I'm asking for some help from any installers or anyone with exprience. The system I was installing is the Rattler 369d remote start with keyless entry. I have the 557L for the passlock as well. Well here goes, I had just about all the neccisary wire connected. I know I had the main wires, 12v, ACC, IGN, Starter, all wired and they were correct. Tested them at least 10 times to make sure they were right. I also had the passlock hooked up correct as well. Now my problem is I could not get the car to remote start.

I had the brake safety switch hooked up and my hoodpin, however i am unsure if there is a neutral safety switch(which is #1). Also I didnt have a tach wire hooked up, will the car even attempt to start without that hooked up? I spent a very large amount of time to try an get this to work and figure with what i had already hooked up the car would at least try to start, but i've been reading and seeing alot about tach wires so i'm wondering if maybe that was my problem? I mean everytime i tried to start it i got absolutely no response from the car, no clicking, no attempt, no nothing. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? Could it just be that tach wire or are there others i need as well.

I would also like to know if there is a factory alarm arm/disarm I have to hook up to at all. And what else i would need to get the keyless entry to work as well as the trunk release. Any help will be very much appreciated.

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Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 11:12 PM

it sounds like you are missing a wire somewhere..
post a link for that unit...

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Posted By: Rain77man
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 11:16 PM

Heres a link to to unit

https://www.directed.com/guides/manuals/ig/rattler/G369R_7-03.pdf

Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 11:24 PM

what wires you not have hooked up??

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Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 11:35 PM

does the car even turn over??

see if this info matches yours:

Make:   Pontiac
Model: Grand Am
Year:    2000
This Database Was Last Updated On:    6/9/2003
Index #: 8092

Alarm
Constant 12 volts RED & RED / BLACK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light WHITE (-) * AT COURTESY LIGHT
Trunk Pin Switch ORANGE / BLACK (-) AT SWITCH OR LIGHT IN TRUNK
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock WHITE DRIVER KICK
Power Unlock SINGLE WIRE SYSTEM PANEL #217

* Optional Door Trigger Located At Body Control Module Under Passenger Dash. L GREEN/ BLACK (-) Covers Driver Door, L BLUE (-) Covers All Other Doors. Diode Isolation Needed, Cathode (Band) Side Of Diode Faces OEM Wires. Doorlocks Are Found As A Single Wire System. A Negative Pusle On The WHITE Wire In The Driver Kick Panel Will Lock The Doors. A Negative Pulse Thru A 1.5K Ohm Resistor On The Same WHITE Wire Will Unlock The Doors.

Remote Start
Tach Signal WHITE TOP OF ENGINE ON DISTRUBITER #238
Ignition #2 D GREEN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS *
Ignition #3 ORANGE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (HEAT/AC)
Accessory BROWN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety NOT GROUNDING TYPE - OEM SWITCH OPENS STARTER CIRCUIT
Brake Light L BLUE (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Reverse Light L GREEN (+) AT SWITCH ON TRANSMISSION
Rear Window Defrost N/A TIMER BUILT INTO SWITCH

#238 - See G.M. Passlok II Diagram. * D GREEN Wire Is Powered In "Run" & "Start" Position. This Circuit Needs To Be Powered For Engine To Start.

Ignition #2 D GREEN IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS *
* D GREEN Wire Is Powered In "Run" & "Start" Position. This Circuit Needs To Be Powered For Engine To Start.

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Posted By: Rain77man
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 11:37 PM

Ok these are the wire i dont have hooked up:

On the primary Harness:

Factory Alarm Arm/Disarm

Ignition output

(-)Activation input

Wait to start input

(+)Activation input

Channel 2 output

Lights Flash

On the Secondary Harness:

Neutral safety switch

tachometer input

2nd status output

Relay satellite ribbon harness:

Accessory relay trigger

Starter relay trigger

Ignition relay trigger

Relay satellite thick gauge wires:

These are all hook up

Anything I didnt list above has been hooked up.

Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 11:37 PM

one more thing, put the key in the ing, and try the remote start....if it starts then you dont have the bypass hooked up right..

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Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 11:39 PM

do you have a instant message service

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Posted By: Rain77man
Date Posted: January 18, 2004 at 11:42 PM

Yea its Rain77man on AIM

Posted By: ShaunD912
Date Posted: January 21, 2004 at 12:08 AM

I believe the neutral safety switch has to see ground for the remote start to activate.