Alarm goes off when nothing happens?
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: Alarm goes off when nothing happens?
Posted By: scott565
Subject: Alarm goes off when nothing happens?
Date Posted: March 18, 2004 at 11:19 PM
well I today I installed my alarm ( concordia auto ) I got it from a group purchase on jbody.org well anyways, its the remote start one, but I didnt install the remote start components untill I get my bypass. But my problem is...the alarm works, it arms and disarms, locks the doors, arm goes off if door is open and it is shook. but the REAL problem is that once it sits for like 3 minutes, the alarms just goes off by its self. at first I thought it was the shock sensor, so I turned it all the way down, and that wasnt it! So what can it be? thank you in adavance btw I have a 1996 Cavalier Z24 ( factory locks and such ) Scott
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Posted By: sroth140
Date Posted: March 18, 2004 at 11:26 PM
what did you use for your door triggers? and what happens if you unplug the shock harness and arm it. ------------- MECP certified installer
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: March 18, 2004 at 11:27 PM
Make: Chevrolet
Model: Cavalier
Year: 1996
This Database Was Last Updated On: 6/9/2003
Index #: 9878
Alarm
Constant 12 volts RED (2) IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts PINK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light L GRN/BLK & L BLUE (-) AT CONVENIENCE CENTER MODULE *
Trunk Pin Switch N/A
Parking Lamp BROWN (+) AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH
Power Lock L BLUE EITHER KICK (W/O OEM KEYLESS) #203
Power Unlock WHITE PANEL ** (WITH OEM KEYLESS) #202
* L GREEN/ BLACK (-) Covers Driver Door Only, L BLUE (-) Covers All Other Doors, Diode Isolation Needed Cathode (Band) Side Of Diode Faces Oem Wires. Conv. Center Module Located Behind Driver Dash To Left Of Steering Column. ** Without OEM Keyless, Must Test From Passenger Switch!! #203- See Reversal Rest At Ground Power Door Lock Diagram. #202- See Positive Pulse Door Lock Diagram ------------- Good Luck
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Posted By: sroth140
Date Posted: March 18, 2004 at 11:32 PM
thanks for the wires... no real advice tho...
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Posted By: scott565
Date Posted: March 18, 2004 at 11:33 PM
sroth140......for now im just running 1 trigger and taht is the door one, just until I get a 1amp diode to diode isolate the passenger side door. and I can honestly say that I never pulled the plug for the shock sensor! so I would know...but do you really think that could be the problem?
Posted By: scott565
Date Posted: March 18, 2004 at 11:35 PM
But I am fairly new to electricity so if it is something that is easy for you to understand please put it in words that I can..not ot be rude...thanx a lot guys
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 5:51 AM
that could be the problem, try to diode isolate the dome light.
the reason i sent you the info that i did was so you could double check the hook ups that you did... ------------- Good Luck
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Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 5:53 AM
also, do you have a book that tells you what zone triggered the alarm....most owners manual will have a page in there about each zone....double check that info and see what it tells you..if you need one let us know, im sure we can find one for you... ------------- Good Luck
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Posted By: markcars
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 6:44 AM
are you sure it takes 3 minutes to go off and not less? The reason why I ask is most alarms have a delay time before fully arming. The delay could be 30 seconds, 45 seconds or so. time it and let us know.
Posted By: raydawg357
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 9:04 AM
Instead of diode isolating your dome light. Try connecting your dome light supervision wire to your door trigger. This will elliminate the dome light delay. It is usually BLACK/ white. You can also connect the other (-) input wire from the alarm (blue) to your passenger door trigger to get around using a diode.
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Posted By: scott565
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 11:15 AM
im a bit worried about using the dome light! what happens if I turn the dome light on with the button or swtich?
Posted By: scott565
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 11:26 AM
well I was looking at https://bulldogsecurity.com/New%20Wires/New%20Wires/Wires/cav96-98.htm and it says that the dome light is LT GRN/ blk (-) so how would I go about wiring it? also its says taht it is at the ccm? where is that and what is that? I feel like such a retard, all you guys are probably like WOW hes stupid..hahah electricity isnt my thing
Posted By: raydawg357
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 12:49 PM
nothing happens if you turn on your dome light. The alarm would not be activated if you are in the vehicle, and it works as an input trigger to set the alarm off. Some alarms with domelight supervision will turn on your domelight once the alarm is deactivated, but this shuts off as soon as you turn your ignition on. No need to worry.
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Posted By: raydawg357
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 12:55 PM
You must splice the wire from your alarm into the lt grn/blk wire. Make sure the wire from the alarm is also (-) polarity. The ccm is your central control module and it is located in your drivers' side kick panel. ------------- Do it right the first time
Posted By: scott565
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 7:53 PM
raydawg....(-) polarity as in? anything thing is on my lsc remote there is a lil thing that shows up when the car is remote started or engine is running ( well I dont have the remote start hooked-up AN I never had the car running while armed ) but anyways when I arm it, this lil thing shows up meaning the car is running, so that is why the alarm is going off I think! why would it be thinking that the car is running, when it really isnt?
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 8:58 PM
draasch wrote:
also, do you have a book that tells you what zone triggered the alarm....most owners manual will have a page in there about each zone....double check that info and see what it tells you..if you need one let us know, im sure we can find one for you...
were you able to find out this info???? ------------- Good Luck
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Posted By: scott565
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 9:17 PM
I did look threw my manual and found nothing. The only time it shows you what happened is when it was the shock sensor picks it up, but it doesnt do that. It keeps thinking that the car is being started or is started when in armed mode. and I dont know what the alarm alarm name is condcordia auto www.concordia-auto.com thanx again guys Scott
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 9:27 PM
what is the model number???? ------------- Good Luck
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Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 9:29 PM
can you scan the install manual and send it to me??? ------------- Good Luck
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Posted By: scott565
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 10:02 PM
the whole thing or just the wiring diagram? I can take a pic of it.....thats the best I can do...no scanner :( so if a pic is ok, let me know thanx scott
Posted By: scott565
Date Posted: March 19, 2004 at 10:23 PM
draasch..I took a picture and it turned out really well actully BUT I cant resize it smaller other wise you wont be able to read it ( its 668kb )
Posted By: markcars
Date Posted: March 20, 2004 at 8:33 AM
you have several choices for the picture:
a) put it up anywhere on the web and give him the link. IExp will automatically resize it on view.
b) you can open it up in any image editing program and do an image resize to reduce it.
c) email me the picture (help@mark007.com) and I can do it for you if you are still having trouble.
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