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Laws Prohibiting Remote Car Starters

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Topic: Laws Prohibiting Remote Car Starters

Posted By: Focusedonsound
Subject: Laws Prohibiting Remote Car Starters
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 12:25 PM

Does anyone know where I can find out any to all information pretaining to Local and state laws prohibiting the installation of Remote car starters?

Or specific to Remote start on manual transmissions?




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Posted By: Fullthrottle
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 1:01 PM
The only law I know here in Oklahoma even coming close is leaving your car running with the keys in it. I know its a hefty fine but I dont think there is anything on the books here prohibting a remote starter. I could be wrong.

Ill ask a cop friend of mine.




Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 2:41 PM
not aware of any here, but there are in Europe... in most countries you can only leave a vehicle running so many minutes, usually 3-5.....

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Posted By: intmd8rfn3
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 2:56 PM
Here in Germany it is illegal to leave a vehicle running if no one is in it. Oh well, I installed my remote start over the weekend, I will take my chances. I am out of here in August anyways.




Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 5:11 PM
Dang in other countries they are strict.

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Posted By: DukeM
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 9:31 PM

Teamrf wrote:

Dang in other countries they are strict.

No less strict than in our very own.  Trust me.





Posted By: auex
Date Posted: March 25, 2004 at 11:36 PM
I am not aware of any laws here in the states that ban them, but IMO it is stupid to do on a manual regardless of safety precautions taken.

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Posted By: raydawg357
Date Posted: March 26, 2004 at 10:34 AM
There isn't a law against it.  It's merely a safety and liability issue. 

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Posted By: geotexz71
Date Posted: March 26, 2004 at 11:12 AM
raydawg357 wrote:

There isn't a law against it.  It's merely a safety and liability issue. 


Not quite true... Several States in the US are considering adopting laws to dissuade idling, unattended vehicles (and have been for several years). Alaska ALREADY HAS SUCH A LAW IN EFFECT!

From Title 9 of the Alaskan Statutes:

"No person driving or in charge of a motor vehicle may permit it to stand on a public street unattended without first stopping the engine, locking the ignition, effectively setting the brake thereon and, when standing upon any grade, turning the front wheels to the curb or side of the highway.... If a vehicle is left running in a public or private parking lot, the hand brake shall be left on and any automatic transmission shall be placed in the 'park' mode."

This law is actively enforced on public right-of-ways, with a first offense costing $40, and a second offense requiring mandatory court appearance.

Also, these bills are not based upon safety or liability but upon environmental concerns - unnecessary emissions and degradation of our atmosphere. New York, New Jersey, California, Florida, and Arizona are the states that I can remember off the top of my head pursuing such bills. However, I don't believe any have yet to make it past the floors of the State Senates to the respective governors' offices.

Fun, fun, fun...




Posted By: nubiannupe
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 2:04 AM
geotexz71 wrote:



From Title 9 of the Alaskan Statutes:

"No person driving or in charge of a motor vehicle may permit it to stand on a public street unattended without first stopping the engine, locking the ignition, effectively setting the brake thereon and, when standing upon any grade, turning the front wheels to the curb or side of the highway.... If a vehicle is left running in a public or private parking lot, the hand brake shall be left on and any automatic transmission shall be placed in the 'park' mode."

This law is actively enforced on public right-of-ways, with a first offense costing $40, and a second offense requiring mandatory court appearance.

Also, these bills are not based upon safety or liability but upon environmental concerns - unnecessary emissions and degradation of our atmosphere. New York, New Jersey, California, Florida, and Arizona are the states that I can remember off the top of my head pursuing such bills. However, I don't believe any have yet to make it past the floors of the State Senates to the respective governors' offices.

Fun, fun, fun...


That law seems rather ambiguous to me. Because the way I'm interpreting that, is that you CAN have a remote start in your vehicle IF you use it in your driveway, but if you're out shopping or sitting in front of someone's house with your car on the street, you CAN'T have your remote start running the car (which seems especially silly coming from one of the coldest states in the US).

But then again, I've fought the law here in ND on two separate occasions pertaining to my remote start, and I used to be a police officer - so WTF do we know?? posted_image

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 10:33 AM
No laws up here in Canada but if you install a auto specific remote start in a manual transmission vehicle, there's hell to pay and it's usually the manufacturer that is to blame. That's why Command Start went into receivership because of too many law suites against them.

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Posted By: bmf1000d
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 2:31 PM
Yeah there is a law her in nebraska about leaving your car unattended. But in my reading of most laws that pertain to that issue it does not rule out that a officer may leave his car unattended. So in fact there in violation of that law as well as far as i can tell.

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Posted By: Romey-ROme
Date Posted: March 27, 2004 at 9:33 PM
Having laws is one thing. Bu having them enforced is a whole nother thing...It seems that this type of law would have a very low enforcement rate.




Posted By: securinu
Date Posted: March 28, 2004 at 8:00 AM
I doubt that will fly here in California. Darrel Issa the former owner of DEI is a Senator here. SInce he probably still gets some money from them he has a finacial interest in making sure that doesnt happen.

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