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2004 Nissan Altima remote start problem

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: June 04, 2024 at 7:01 AM


Topic: 2004 Nissan Altima remote start problem

Posted By: Namrock
Subject: 2004 Nissan Altima remote start problem
Date Posted: March 28, 2004 at 11:08 PM

Hey anyone know if there is something im missing. Im doing a Clifford Rsx3.5 in a 2004 Nissan altima. Im using also a 555u. I have it wired up normal without using the white wire. The car cranks over but will not start. When i start the car normally, then remote start then pull out the key the car stays on. Is there a special way i should wire the 555u? Is there another immobalizer i have to bypass? If anyone can help let me know!




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Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: March 28, 2004 at 11:17 PM
put the key in the ign. and then remote start the car.

does it stay running??? if so it sounds like you need to re-program the bypass or check the wires....

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Posted By: Namrock
Date Posted: March 28, 2004 at 11:25 PM
I also tryed putting the key in the ignition then remote starting the car but just cranks over. everything else in the alarm works like a charm. Just can't seem to get the remote start to work.




Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: March 28, 2004 at 11:29 PM
did u make sure u hooked up all of the ign. wires???

this info is for the 2003, might be the same for 04...

double check these wire with a meter....

Ignition 12 volts BLACK/ RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #2 RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory WHITE/ BLUE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS



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Posted By: Namrock
Date Posted: March 28, 2004 at 11:37 PM

IGNITION|BLACK/ red           |+  |ignition harness            |
ACCESSORY|red                 |+  |ignition harness            |
| SECOND ACCESSORY|WHITE/ blue 

Thanks im going to try that. I only had one Ignition wire hooked up. I was going off the diagram off a 2003 altima from the techsoft program i had.  Hope thats what the problem was.





Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: March 28, 2004 at 11:39 PM
good luck

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 29, 2004 at 8:47 AM
If the car stays running when after you place the remote start into run mode, then it's not anything to do with your wiring, it is the bypass module that is the problem. The starting sequence is being inhibited by the Immobilizer and if the key in the 555U isn't seated properly in the case, it will not read the key and transfer the signal to the Immobilizer barrel. Also, make sure that your ground out when running wire is properly working and is outputing a (-) signal.

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Posted By: Namrock
Date Posted: April 07, 2004 at 11:02 PM
still having same problems. The car has a second starter wire . i think that may be the problem. Any ideas ?




Posted By: Namrock
Date Posted: April 08, 2004 at 12:44 AM
I tryed using the second ignition relay setup, it worked but for some reason the starter wires off the alarm still get a constant 12vts and when i use the key and leave it on the on position, then step on the clutch the car starts. This car is kicking my ass! anyhelp would be great.




Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: April 08, 2004 at 2:05 AM
|              12V|green               |+ |ignition harness            |
|          STARTER|BLACK/ red           |+ |ignition harness            |
|   SECOND STARTER|BLACK / YELLOW        |+ |ignition harness            |
|        IGNITION|BLACK/ red           |+ |ignition harness            |
|        ACCESSORY|red                 |+ |ignition harness            |
| SECOND ACCESSORY|WHITE/ blue          |+ |ignition harness          
are those wire hook up?

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Posted By: NowYaKnow
Date Posted: April 08, 2004 at 5:58 AM
"then step on the clutch the car starts"

You have to bypass the clutch when doing a remote start on a manual transmission vehicle in order to remote start it.

Mike




Posted By: Big Dog
Date Posted: April 08, 2004 at 8:39 AM
Here we go again posted_image

Automatic r-start in a manual tranny posted_image

Try to remember this rule of thumb, I'll try to keep it simple:

automatic starter + manny tranny = posted_image



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Posted By: jfk51502003
Date Posted: April 08, 2004 at 9:42 AM
sounds like you have the 2nd acc. wire instead of first and must use both starter wires and you must use a relay on the acc...on 04 altimas




Posted By: 3forty7
Date Posted: April 08, 2004 at 1:49 PM

Like earlier stated did you bypass the clutch?  If that is not the case did you try tach learning the alarm or are you using voltage sense?





Posted By: Namrock
Date Posted: April 08, 2004 at 3:20 PM

really how would i set up that relay on the acc?

I already bypasses the clutch, before the main problem was that when i tryed remote starting the car, it just cranked over. I check the 555u and it was fine. I then tryed to use the second ignition wire relay set up and it remote started with out a problem, but then when i would start the car normally , by putting the key in the on position then steping on the clutch the car started. So what i did to get it running normal was disconnect the starter wires from the alarm.

Heres my question on the second ign relay setup. 87 goes to 12vt, 30 goes to the second ign, now where does 85 and 86 go to. I know that one of them goes to the ist ign but thats where im lost, do i still have the ist ign cut? or still together.





Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: April 08, 2004 at 4:04 PM
86 12v
85 ground

what ever polarity you put on 87 will transfer to pin 30 when the relay is energized.

do you know what polarity you need coming out of the relay????

85 or 86 can be operated from a switch. you dont want them energized all the time. it will drain your battery.




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Posted By: 3forty7
Date Posted: April 09, 2004 at 2:40 PM

is the 555u relay clicking during remote strat. If not just try grounding the 555u. Sometimes you need to wire in a relay with a stronger ground. If thats the case

Blue black from alarm- 85

12- 86

ground- 87

30 to blue black on 555u





Posted By: 3forty7
Date Posted: April 09, 2004 at 2:41 PM

is the 555u relay clicking during remote strat. If not just try grounding the 555u. Sometimes you need to wire in a relay with a stronger ground. If thats the case

Blue black from alarm- 85

12- 86

ground- 87

30 to blue black on 555u





Posted By: ccaudio
Date Posted: April 09, 2004 at 7:01 PM
you have to hook up the second starter wire in order for it to run normal in the cold weather.




Posted By: Namrock
Date Posted: April 10, 2004 at 10:56 AM
How would i hook up the second starter? I need someone to further explain what goes to what to hook up the relay for it. I tryed going off the relay diagram but im still a little confused.




Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 10, 2004 at 11:32 AM
https://www.velocitymotorsport.com/images/install_notes/108.jpg

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Posted By: patmar
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 7:57 PM
check the nissan have two starter wire i think is yours problem (maybe)





Posted By: nava94
Date Posted: April 12, 2004 at 11:29 PM
Your vehicle is equipped with 2 sarter wires the second starter wire it up on a relay so the motor side of the starter wire gets  12volts, make sure you isolate both of the starter leads and make sure your key on the 555u is set in right.




Posted By: Namrock
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 12:40 AM

nava94 wrote:

Your vehicle is equipped with 2 sarter wires the second starter wire it up on a relay so the motor side of the starter wire gets  12volts, make sure you isolate both of the starter leads and make sure your key on the 555u is set in right.

so diode each of the starer wires?

now what confuses me about the relay diagram is that on the diagram the primary and secondary starter wires are not cut. SO do i just leave the wires as is? cause you know when you wire a starter kill you cut the primary then have from the alarm brain green / purple to the starter and key side of the starter wire. so do i still have the primary cut or leave it complete?





Posted By: profuse007
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 12:50 AM
if you want to have the starter kill and the anti grind functions, then cut the primary starter.
green-key side
purple-starter side.

if you dont want those two functions, then just tap the purple wire into the primary starter wire. but remember that the secondary starter must me active when primary starter engage, too.

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Posted By: Namrock
Date Posted: April 13, 2004 at 1:13 AM

profuse007 wrote:

if you want to have the starter kill and the anti grind functions, then cut the primary starter.
green-key side
purple-starter side.

if you dont want those two functions, then just tap the purple wire into the primary starter wire. but remember that the secondary starter must me active when primary starter engage, too.

so if i wanted the two fuctions how would i wire the relay up then? Thats what i confused about.






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