Avantguard 4 -no chirp
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Topic: Avantguard 4 -no chirp
Posted By: penogg
Subject: Avantguard 4 -no chirp
Date Posted: July 23, 2004 at 5:33 PM
I have an Avantguard 4 alarm and the horn/siren is not chirping to give the “armed/disarmed” confirmation anymore.
I have even tried checking it out with the Cliff Wizard software and no errors show up and all the wiring seems to be fine. It just stopped working one day.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
KP
Replies:
Posted By: slicksam
Date Posted: July 23, 2004 at 8:57 PM
if you hold down the lock button on the remote.....the siren should sound off and the parkinglights should flash. if you hear nothing.....your siren needs to be replaced. or make the alarm go off and with your testlight check the output from the alarm unit......if you get no reading.....output on the unit is fried. Later Slicksam
Posted By: auex
Date Posted: July 23, 2004 at 11:33 PM
Valet mode maybe?
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Posted By: jc18750
Date Posted: July 24, 2004 at 4:46 AM
check the ground on your siren, it's not wired to the alarm
Posted By: jimmeezgolfvr6
Date Posted: July 24, 2004 at 5:51 AM
are you only missing the chirping sounds, or does the siren not make sounds at all? are you using the siren that came with the alarm? it can only be connected in one way with the molexes that it comes with so it's not likely for you to have made an error there. or are you using the secondary negative horn/siren output (should be yellow)?
Posted By: penogg
Date Posted: July 25, 2004 at 5:17 PM
The siren works, just no chirp....
Posted By: alarmgui
Date Posted: July 26, 2004 at 1:42 AM
If the siren works at all, then it is plugged in correctly. The date bus handels it all and the siren driver is built inside the siren along with the battery. If driving the car for a good long while doesn't fix it (it only charges while driving) then the siren is bad (or just the battery pack). The old CEI version tended to go bad like that especially if in a hot location. The newer DEI version -515R doesn't seem to have the same issue. Swap it out and all should be good. As a matter of fact my 3yo AG4 siren just konked out in my DelSol about a week ago. I'll get to it in a few years i suppose :) ------------- Scott West
San Jose, CA
Posted By: jimmeezgolfvr6
Date Posted: July 26, 2004 at 4:22 AM
clifford g4 sirens on the higher models of alarms are notorious for going faulty after a while. a couple of things you can try is to reprogram your remote(s) to make sure that you're not actually pressing silent arming and disarming, and also checking to make sure in the programming options that your chirping is not "off". does it change if you set it to quiet chirps or loud chirps?
i'm using the same alarms on 2 of my own vehicles and both of them have strange reactions on disarming chirps. both of them will not consistently do silent disarming....one gives me a standard quiet chirp even if i press silent disarming, and the other gives me one the tones produced when adjusting the proximity sensitivity. kinda annoying at first, but since it seems to work normally otherwise, i just shrug it off and leave them alone.
Posted By: alarmgui
Date Posted: July 26, 2004 at 4:52 AM
Oh, i fogot to mention, did you connect Night Vision?If so, do the headlights/parking lights coem on even if its light out? If so, and you have SilentNight sturned on (column 2, Row 2 User) then the chirps will not work either...the electric eye is bad or the blue disk turned black..pop it out to eliminate problem.
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Scott West
San Jose, CA
Posted By: jc18750
Date Posted: July 26, 2004 at 5:12 AM
i had the same problem on a friends neon. siren stopped working and i told him i'd get to it. it mysteriously started working again after about 2 wks... worked for a month and went down again. i told him i'd get to it. again.
Posted By: penogg
Date Posted: August 03, 2004 at 10:09 AM
Ok,
Just to update, I went completely through the system and checked all of the wiring.
It all seems fine. Although, I did find these faults:
When using Cliff Wizard, I hit the “one chirp” the siren does nothing.
Since this siren has a battery backup, I set off the alarm; disconnect the main battery, and the siren fades out right away.
So, am I to conclude that the siren is bad?
KP
Posted By: scirocco16v
Date Posted: August 03, 2004 at 11:17 PM
the chirps will stop if the internal battery dies, it is supposed to do that to alert you of the problem, which is exactly what yours did. I have seen it several times, some quicker then others. Time for a new siren. jeremy
Posted By: alarmgui
Date Posted: August 04, 2004 at 2:21 AM
I have found this to be a problem especially when the sirne is mounted high in the engien compartment or close to the radiator. I'm guessing the heat kills of the battery faster than it should die normally. Since the SSPS4 only charges when the key is on, it should last quite soemtime. You can take the siren apart and replace the batteries yourself. There are only 6 (i think) AA size batteries wired in series. Simply solder in soem new ones and tape/zip-tie the pack to gether and re assemble the siren.
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Scott West
San Jose, CA
Posted By: penogg
Date Posted: August 04, 2004 at 9:31 AM
Thanks a bunch guy's!
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